"Save As" for Browser vs. Batch Convert

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"Save As" for Browser vs. Batch Convert

Post by Dreamer » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:22 am

I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by xnview » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:09 am

Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?
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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by Dreamer » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:54 pm

xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?
Yes, a single picture. "Save As" dialog should appears also after "Ctrl+S".

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by helmut » Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:45 pm

Dreamer wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?
Yes, a single picture. "Save As" dialog should appears also after "Ctrl+S".
I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by Dreamer » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:29 am

helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by helmut » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:20 pm

Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.
When a door is hard to open and squeakes, you put oil on it. But you won't saw a whole into it to walk through.

What I mean:
If "Convert" is complicated to use, we should try to make it easier to use. For example, the output folder could be the same as the original file. And the output folder could be a drop down list with recently used folders. Just some initial ideas...

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by xnview » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 am

helmut wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.
When a door is hard to open and squeakes, you put oil on it. But you won't saw a whole into it to walk through.

What I mean:
If "Convert" is complicated to use, we should try to make it easier to use. For example, the output folder could be the same as the original file. And the output folder could be a drop down list with recently used folders. Just some initial ideas...
But perhaps it would be great to make special dialog to convert or resize pictures easily...
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Post by Dreamer » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:36 pm

I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...

Anyway, I still think "Save As" in Browser would be useful.

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by helmut » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:55 am

xnview wrote:But perhaps it would be great to make special dialog to convert or resize pictures easily...
Please reread my "door" analogy. We have Sequence convert, a Multi convert and a Batch rename. Do you really want to add a "Quick convert"?

Problem seems to be a complicated conversion dialog if you simply want to change the format. So let's try to make that one simpler, first. And if this does not work out, we still can try to find another solution.
Dreamer wrote:I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...
Let's continue this thread. Until now this is all "in-topic".
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Post by marsh » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:52 pm

Batch convert will use current directory if its output field is cleared with <del>. Because of this, it is faster than other method for me. Perhaps the dialogue can be improved (while keeping it small enough). Possibilites:

1. Display "Same directory as file(s)" instead of empty space for output directory when possible.
2. Down Arrow with recent directories, including "Same directory as file(s)", to right of output directory. Favorites?
3. Automatically include filename when launching from viewer (more powerful alternative to 'save as'). http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=2955

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Else---

Post by Clo » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:41 pm

:arrow: marsh

:) Hello !

- To convert a single file at the same time, this solution could do the trick as well…

:mrgreen: Kind regards,
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Re: Else---

Post by marsh » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:54 pm

Clo wrote: - To convert a single file at the same time, this solution could do the trick as well…
Ah yes, the long combo-box list problem. What if 5 most recently used types were floated to top of list with a separator?

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Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Post by Dreamer » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:04 pm

helmut wrote:We have Sequence convert, a Multi convert and a Batch rename. Do you really want to add a "Quick convert"?
He wants another dialog(s)? Then I disagree.
helmut wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...
Let's continue this thread. Until now this is all "in-topic".
I have several suggestions to "Improve Batch Convert", but we can continue here...

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Post by Clo » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:31 pm

:arrow: marsh

:) Hi again !
…What if 5 most recently used types were floated to top of list with a separator?
- Sounds good as a temporary minimal improvement (could be set as extra INI-entries like proposed here) but could not solve the problem of a needed alternative path for saving, in example : *.aaa in path #1 >> *.bbb in path #2 >>> *.aaa in path #1 … and so on…
- Moreover, the Ouistiti's brainwave of (a) "Wildcard" button(s) is great, an should allow to add / change to any "exotic" format if needed at any time, quickly and easily…
- About the topic here, indeed I think too that "Save as…" might be available from all modes, I support the Dreamer's request.

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Improve Batch Convert

Post by Dreamer » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:42 pm

Improve Batch Convert suggestions:

#1 "[x] Use the same directory as file(s)" (Marsh, you were faster :wink: )

#2 Rename [Options] "button" to [Format Options] and automatically focus on selected format

#3 Divide some "special" options, e.g. load/save script, nconvert

#4 (maybe?) Add "buttons" for most used actions, e.g. [Resize], [Crop], [Add Text] and automatically open "Advanced Operations" dialog and focus on appropriate option
- About the topic here, indeed I think too that "Save as…" might be available from all modes, I support the Dreamer's request.
Thanks Clo.

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