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Why two fullscreen modes?

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:53 am
by Brasileiro
Why are there two fullscreen modes?

I've read this on a topic about loading images on separate threads, but could not find the explanation for the two modes on the help file or searching the forum.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:08 am
by Xyzzy
I do not know for sure, but I guess "fullscreen lite" is fullscreen mode run directly from Windows (I am not sure if it is the only way) and is a programatical construction aimed at speeding up XnView startup when used as a system image browser.
Fullscreen lite has afair 3 options that affect only its operation and not "normal" fullscreen.

It confuses me too.

X.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:33 am
by ckv
The secret behind the two fullscreen modes are that there are no two different fullscreen modes.

Really these "two" modes are (or should be) identical. When XnView 1.8 was in beta test stage, the beta testers noticed that there are some differences in the fullscreen mode depending on how you enter fullscreen mode and the second fullscreen was born to clarify the bug reproduce instructions.

But officially. Far as I know, there are no two fullscreen modes in XnView.

Edit:
Xyzzy wrote:Fullscreen lite has afair 3 options that affect only its operation and not "normal" fullscreen.
This was new to me? What are these options?

Re: Why two fullscreen modes?

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:10 pm
by helmut
Brasileiro wrote:Why are there two fullscreen modes?

I've read this on a topic about loading images on separate threads, but could not find the explanation for the two modes on the help file or searching the forum.
The two fullscreen modes are there for technical reasons. These fullscreen modes should be identical and transparent from users perspective, but in fact and unfortunately they aren't.

Please see explanation and discussion in topic "1.80: Two Fullscreen modes?".

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:14 pm
by Xyzzy
ckv wrote:This was new to me? What are these options?
They are for 1.80:

View>Maximize View when Open
View>Fullscreen>Enable navigation with left and right mouse button
View>Fullscreen>Hide play bar

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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:05 pm
by ckv
Thanks.
Xyzzy wrote:View>Maximize View when Open
I have no idea what this does... ? Actually I can't recall this option at all. :)
Xyzzy wrote:View>Fullscreen>Enable navigation with left and right mouse button
View>Fullscreen>Hide play bar
In XnView 1.80.3 these affect to both fullscreen modes.


Edit:
Now I get the "Maximize View when Open" option. But this option doesn't affect to fullscreen at all.

So just as I thought. The modes are identical, no differences or changes of any kind. It just starts to fullscreen instead of normal view. If someone knows any difference between these so called modes, please... speak now or forever remain silent! :D

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:23 pm
by Guest
Yes, Maximize is not for fullscreen, my mistake.

But:
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=4150
Cannot find the post for the other option.

X.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:26 pm
by ckv
Anonymous wrote:http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=4150
Cannot find the post for the other option.

X.
Probably only a temporary beta bug :) It works in beta 2 and 1.80.3

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:28 pm
by Xyzzy
We'll see in final version.

X.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:16 pm
by Dreamer
Delayed high quality option affects fullscreen lite (from browser) only.
I guess "fullscreen lite" is fullscreen mode run directly from Windows (I am not sure if it is the only way) and is a programatical construction aimed at speeding up XnView startup when used as a system image browser.
No, at startup it's normal / view mode fullscreen.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:21 am
by Xyzzy
So which one is fullscreen lite?

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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:41 am
by helmut
Xyzzy wrote:So which one is fullscreen lite?

X.
Fullscreen lite is the lightweight fullscreen, i.e. the one without a window opened for this image.

An example:
When switching from browser thumbnail directly to fullscreen you are in fullscreen lite. Whereas when switching from thumbnail to image view and then to fullscreen, you are in normal fullscreen.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:00 am
by Xyzzy
But when fullscreen is run directly from Windows there is also no View window opened.

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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:57 pm
by Dreamer
Xyzzy wrote:But when fullscreen is run directly from Windows there is also no View window opened.

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No, it's not FS lite, it's a standard/old/view mode FS, believe me. Try to make a selection, you can, in FS lite/browser mode FS you can't do this.

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:44 am
by Xyzzy
So lite is ONLY fullscreen run directly from Browser?

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