Why two fullscreen modes?

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Why two fullscreen modes?

Post by Brasileiro » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:53 am

Why are there two fullscreen modes?

I've read this on a topic about loading images on separate threads, but could not find the explanation for the two modes on the help file or searching the forum.

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Post by Xyzzy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:08 am

I do not know for sure, but I guess "fullscreen lite" is fullscreen mode run directly from Windows (I am not sure if it is the only way) and is a programatical construction aimed at speeding up XnView startup when used as a system image browser.
Fullscreen lite has afair 3 options that affect only its operation and not "normal" fullscreen.

It confuses me too.

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Post by ckv » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:33 am

The secret behind the two fullscreen modes are that there are no two different fullscreen modes.

Really these "two" modes are (or should be) identical. When XnView 1.8 was in beta test stage, the beta testers noticed that there are some differences in the fullscreen mode depending on how you enter fullscreen mode and the second fullscreen was born to clarify the bug reproduce instructions.

But officially. Far as I know, there are no two fullscreen modes in XnView.

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Xyzzy wrote:Fullscreen lite has afair 3 options that affect only its operation and not "normal" fullscreen.
This was new to me? What are these options?
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Re: Why two fullscreen modes?

Post by helmut » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:10 pm

Brasileiro wrote:Why are there two fullscreen modes?

I've read this on a topic about loading images on separate threads, but could not find the explanation for the two modes on the help file or searching the forum.
The two fullscreen modes are there for technical reasons. These fullscreen modes should be identical and transparent from users perspective, but in fact and unfortunately they aren't.

Please see explanation and discussion in topic "1.80: Two Fullscreen modes?".

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Post by Xyzzy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:14 pm

ckv wrote:This was new to me? What are these options?
They are for 1.80:

View>Maximize View when Open
View>Fullscreen>Enable navigation with left and right mouse button
View>Fullscreen>Hide play bar

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Post by ckv » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:05 pm

Thanks.
Xyzzy wrote:View>Maximize View when Open
I have no idea what this does... ? Actually I can't recall this option at all. :)
Xyzzy wrote:View>Fullscreen>Enable navigation with left and right mouse button
View>Fullscreen>Hide play bar
In XnView 1.80.3 these affect to both fullscreen modes.


Edit:
Now I get the "Maximize View when Open" option. But this option doesn't affect to fullscreen at all.

So just as I thought. The modes are identical, no differences or changes of any kind. It just starts to fullscreen instead of normal view. If someone knows any difference between these so called modes, please... speak now or forever remain silent! :D
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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:23 pm

Yes, Maximize is not for fullscreen, my mistake.

But:
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=4150
Cannot find the post for the other option.

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Post by ckv » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:26 pm

Anonymous wrote:http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=4150
Cannot find the post for the other option.

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Probably only a temporary beta bug :) It works in beta 2 and 1.80.3
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Post by Xyzzy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:28 pm

We'll see in final version.

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Post by Dreamer » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:16 pm

Delayed high quality option affects fullscreen lite (from browser) only.
I guess "fullscreen lite" is fullscreen mode run directly from Windows (I am not sure if it is the only way) and is a programatical construction aimed at speeding up XnView startup when used as a system image browser.
No, at startup it's normal / view mode fullscreen.

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Post by Xyzzy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:21 am

So which one is fullscreen lite?

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Post by helmut » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:41 am

Xyzzy wrote:So which one is fullscreen lite?

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Fullscreen lite is the lightweight fullscreen, i.e. the one without a window opened for this image.

An example:
When switching from browser thumbnail directly to fullscreen you are in fullscreen lite. Whereas when switching from thumbnail to image view and then to fullscreen, you are in normal fullscreen.

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Post by Xyzzy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:00 am

But when fullscreen is run directly from Windows there is also no View window opened.

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Post by Dreamer » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:57 pm

Xyzzy wrote:But when fullscreen is run directly from Windows there is also no View window opened.

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No, it's not FS lite, it's a standard/old/view mode FS, believe me. Try to make a selection, you can, in FS lite/browser mode FS you can't do this.

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Post by Xyzzy » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:44 am

So lite is ONLY fullscreen run directly from Browser?

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