XnView Software

The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.

I still prefer 'Cancel', because when you just 'Close' things... you end wondering whether it will start something somehow...

Olivier_G wrote:I still prefer 'Cancel', because when you just 'Close' things... you end wondering whether it will start something somehow...

I don't follow logic here. How could 'Close' start things? But this isn't a big deal so I don't mind... It just that, every time I see that Cancel I get the fell that it's not right.

ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.

I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.

What about "Stop"?

Dreamer wrote:

ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.

I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.
What about "Stop"?

You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialog

xnview wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.

I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.
What about "Stop"?

You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialog

The combination "Go" and "Close" sounds strange to me:
The user has initiated an action, which is a batch conversion and does preperations for this. "Cancel" will cancel the batch conversion and close the dialog, whereas "Go" will start batch conversion. Pretty clear.

The special thing and situation is the possibility not to perform a batch conversion and not close the dialog by unchecking "Close dialog after conversion". In this case, "Close" might be a bit more appropriate, but with "Cancel" the situation is also clear.

Renaming the button from "Cancel" to "Close" depending on the situation (batch conversion performed or not) would be a real overkill, I think.

Just my 0.02 Euros.

xnview wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.

I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.
What about "Stop"?

You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialog

Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.

Dreamer wrote:Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.

When the conversion is on you can't use this button (There's own dialog for the conversion what haves the Cancel button for this). So really the Cancel button in Batch convert don't "cancel" anything. For me it's only closes the dialog, because the conversion haven't started yet.

helmut wrote:The combination "Go" and "Close" sounds strange to me

I agree. It sounds strange to me too, but so does the Cancel. When I used Batch convert at the first time I hesitate to press the cancel, because it wasn’t clear what it does. So I end up to closing the dialog from the titlebar close button.

ckv wrote:

Dreamer wrote:Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.

When the conversion is on you can't use this button (There's own dialog for the conversion what haves the Cancel button for this).

I meant that conversion dialog, sorry.

For me it's only closes the dialog, because the conversion haven't started yet.

But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed, but it's a standard, maybe not correct, since if you use 'cancel' or 'close' button, same action is performed, but we can't change Windows and all programs with this 'behavior'. Therefore I think XnView should be the same and should use this (incorrect) standard.

Dreamer wrote:But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed,

Well. If you use the "Cancel" in any explorer poroperties dialog, the changes (e.g. in file properties dialog: readonly, hidden...) what you made, doesn't apply. So it cancels the changes what is made to the in the dialog.

ckv wrote:

Dreamer wrote:But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed,

Well. If you use the "Cancel" in any explorer poroperties dialog, the changes (e.g. in file properties dialog: readonly, hidden...) what you made, doesn't apply. So it cancels the changes what is made to the in the dialog.

OK, it's not 100% same but it would be strange if all other windows would have Cancel and one dialog Close IMHO.

ckv wrote:I don't follow logic here. How could 'Close' start things?

I remember using programs where after pressing the button "Close"... ...they actually started to process things! = User / = Author

I can imagine "Close and Run..." but not "Cancel and Run"...

Therefore I find "Cancel" less prone to misinterpretation.

Olivier

OK, so could we close this one?

I think we should close it, unless you want to run a poll on "close" or "cancel"

ckit wrote:I think we should close it, unless you want to run a poll on "close" or "cancel"

No polls, they never work, and I can life with Cancel.