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Filter vs. Items displayed
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:08 pm
by helmut
I just had the following case which really confused me:
I browsed a folder with *.avi files, but these where not displayed for some reason. I've looked up in Options, category "Items displayed", but all looked nice. Finally I found that I've set filter to "Images" in a session before.
I think it's confusing to have "Items displayed" on one hand and "Filter" on the other. Is there really a need for "Filter > Images", "Filter > Video", ...?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:54 pm
by Xyzzy
IMO it is nice (having both). You can treat filter as a shortcut to some specific 'Items displayed' settings. It is useful if you sometimes deal with directories with contents that significantly differ from your 'usual' directory pattern.
For example you set some settings for your media directories. Then you want to take a look at your download directory with nice mess. With Filter you can immediately find your media there (one type at a time though)- this is when I use Filter.
An extension of Filter idea may be possibility of defining many sets of 'Items displayed' settings.
Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
X.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:18 am
by Dreamer
Xyzzy wrote:Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
X.
I agree.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:52 pm
by helmut
Another user who had problems, see topic
"filter by image" and [..] bug 1.82.
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:02 am
by Dreamer
Another suggestion - 'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:34 am
by marsh
Xyzzy wrote:Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
Dreamer wrote:Another suggestion - 'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start.
I agree with both suggestions. I use filter to temporarily display non-images for renaming, but then I often forget to change it back to 'custom'.
An "inverse of custom" filter would be interesting. It would show what is being filtered out in options.
Re: Filter vs. Items displayed
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:51 pm
by Danny
helmut wrote:I just had the following case which really confused me:
I browsed a folder with *.avi files, but these where not displayed for some reason. I've looked up in Options, category "Items displayed", but all looked nice. Finally I found that I've set filter to "Images" in a session before.
I think it's confusing to have "Items displayed" on one hand and "Filter" on the other. Is there really a need for "Filter > Images", "Filter > Video", ...?
Yes, there is, if you want to have quick access to common filtering patterns.
Dreamer wrote:Another suggestion - 'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start.
I don't like that. New users will have no problem with this since they will take this for granted.
Re: Filter vs. Items displayed
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:11 am
by Dreamer
Danny wrote:Dreamer wrote:Another suggestion - 'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start.
I don't like that. New users will have no problem with this since they will take this for granted.
Why? If you need a permanent setting, you can set it in options > Items displayed.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:13 am
by xnview
Xyzzy wrote:Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
Perhaps it's the best solution, no??
Re: Filter vs. Items displayed
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:22 am
by Danny
Dreamer wrote:Danny wrote:Dreamer wrote:Another suggestion - 'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start.
I don't like that. New users will have no problem with this since they will take this for granted.
Why? If you need a permanent setting, you can set it in options > Items displayed.
Quick access is the keyword here.
xnview wrote:Xyzzy wrote:Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
Perhaps it's the best solution, no??
You could make it a pull-down menu as well, so the current filter is always shown.
But i still don't need any of this. I'm already used to it (from other programs).
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:30 am
by Dreamer
xnview wrote:Xyzzy wrote:Maybe changing Filter icon when filter is applied would lessen confusion?
Perhaps it's the best solution, no??
Yes, but also this should be added:
"'reset' / change to "custom" filter at xnview start."
Otherwise it could be still confusing for some users.
Quick access is the keyword here.
Still don't understand.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:17 pm
by Danny
Dreamer wrote:Quick access is the keyword here.
Still don't understand.
Quick access to the most commonly used filter patterns. Got it now?
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:55 pm
by Dreamer
Danny wrote:Dreamer wrote:Quick access is the keyword here.
Still don't understand.
Quick access to the most commonly used filter patterns. Got it now?
Yes, but when you need to change it often, why it would be a problem if it would be changed to custom at startup? If you change it often, do you remember what was the last filter when you start PC/xnview?