** English - English

Translation of On-Screen texts of XnView MP and XnConvert

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:22 pm

XnView 0.96:

Some more:

Paste Special -->
Paste outside Note: Normal "Paste" pastes the content of the clipboard inside the image

To the left -->
Left

To the right -->
Right

To the bottom -->
Bottom

To the top -->
Top

Alternatively, it could be 'Left side' instead of just 'Left', and so on. Personally, I think just "Left" is fine and short.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:49 am

helmut wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:22 pm
XnView 0.96:

Some more:
Thanks
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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:29 pm

XnView MP 0.96.1:
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No elipsis in dialog title.

BTW: Is "Curves" really meaningful? To me "Curves" is the way you control RGB and Brilliance. So I think it should rather say something like "RGB/Brilliance" or similar? Other opinions?

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Re: ** English - English

Post by cday » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:23 am

helmut wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:29 pm
XnView MP 0.96.1:
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No ellipsis in dialog title.

BTW: Is "Curves" really meaningful? To me "Curves" is the way you control RGB and Brilliance. So I think it should rather say something like "RGB/Brilliance" or similar? Other opinions?

'Curves' is the usual term in image editing software, I believe, and provides more control than the [equally unmeaningful...] 'Levels' function :?:

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:21 pm

cday wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:23 am
... 'Curves' is the usual term in image editing software, I believe, and provides more control than the [equally unmeaningful...] 'Levels' function :?:
O.k., thank you for your explanation, cday.

And what about "Curves (RGB/Brilliance)"?

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XnView MP 0.96:

There are two messages in the area of sessions:
A: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"

What's the difference of these messages? When is message A displayed, when message B? In message A the term "tabs" is used while in message B the term "images" is used - is this on purpose?

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Re: ** English - English

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:28 am

helmut wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:29 pm
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No elipsis in dialog title.
There is no elipsis already
A: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
When asking about saving session at exiting
B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"
At startup
Pierre.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by cday » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:41 am

xnview wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:28 am
A: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
When asking about saving session at exiting
B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"
At startup

B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"

The above text seems clearer as it is only reopening that is slowed...

[If too long, 'noticeably' could be omitted.]

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:51 pm

xnview wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:28 am
helmut wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:29 pm
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No elipsis in dialog title.
There is no elipsis already
As you can see in the screenshot of XnView 0.96 (English) there is an elipsis in the dialog title:
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EDIT: From what I can see the appropriate (wrong) label is here:

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        <message>
        <location filename="DlgCurves.h" line="41"/>
        <source>Curves...</source>
        <translatorcomment>Dialog Title</translatorcomment>
        <translation>Kurven (RGB/Brillianz)</translation>
    </message>
xnview wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:28 am
A: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
When asking about saving session at exiting
B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"
At startup
Thank you for your answer, Pierre. Could you please be a bit more precise? Are these messages displayed always (i.e. when you have one or more tabs/images opened) or only if a specific number or more tabs/images are opened? Why is the term "tab" used in message A and the term "images" in message B?

@cday: Thank you for your answer and suggestion for a more precise message text. Let's wait first for Pierre's answer to better understand the context and then decide on the text.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:11 am

XnView MP 0.96.1:

The 'Use CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files. ->
The 'Use multiple CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files Note: Text of setting was changed

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Re: ** English - English

Post by xnview » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:47 am

helmut wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Thank you for your answer, Pierre. Could you please be a bit more precise? Are these messages displayed always (i.e. when you have one or more tabs/images opened) or only if a specific number or more tabs/images are opened? Why is the term "tab" used in message A and the term "images" in message B?
A is displayed when you more than 1 tabs at exit, and B is displayed when you have more than 7 tabs/images. if use 'tab' in A because we can see them, and 'image' at opening is better.
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Re: ** English - English

Post by XnTriq » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:15 am

Please, guys, we've been there before: The (tone) curves tool is used to adjust the tonality.
XnTriq wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:30 am
helmut wrote:
helmut wrote:"Curves" -->
"Curves"
Hmm, perhaps I'm out of the graphic business for too long. ;-) When speaking of curves I'd rather think of splines than RGB or brilliance curves. Perhaps something like "Curves (RGB & Brilliance)" would make things a bit clearer? But I don't mind keeping "Curves".
If we have to deviate from the standard terminology, “Tone curves” would be my choice. “Curves (Luma & RGB)...” and “Levels (Luma & RGB)...” seem really odd to me.
PS: RGB Curve Editing

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:26 pm

XnTriq wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:15 am
Please, guys, we've been there before: The (tone) curves tool is used to adjust the tonality.
Oops, right. Thank you, XnTriq, for pointing us to this old discussion. And conclusion was/is: No change. Right?

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:18 pm

xnview wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:47 am
A is displayed when you more than 1 tabs at exit, and B is displayed when you have more than 7 tabs/images. if use 'tab' in A because we can see them, and 'image' at opening is better.
Thank you for your explanation, Pierre. I think XnView's behaviour and messages are a bit unclear and inconsistent in this area. This topic is about translation and I want to avoid hijacking it, so I've started a new topic Improved messages for sessions.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by XnTriq » Fri May 01, 2020 10:30 pm

helmut wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:26 pm
Oops, right. Thank you, XnTriq, for pointing us to this old discussion. And conclusion was/is: No change. Right?
As cday pointed out, curves and levels are standard tools in image (as well as video) editing.
https://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=433334&seqNum=3 wrote:Correcting Tone and Contrast with Curves

If you're using Photoshop 7, CS, or CS2, then you have access to Curves, another type of tone and contrast correction tool. Curves allows you to do the same thing as Levels – brighten and darken the pixel values of your image – but it uses a very different interface.
https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-tool-curves.html wrote:The Curves tool is the most sophisticated tool for changing the color, brightness, contrast or transparency of the active layer or a selection. While the Levels tool allows you to work on Shadows and Highlights, the Curves tool allows you to work on any tonal range. It works on RGB images.
If we have to deviate from the commonly used terminology, I'd go for “Tone Curves”.

Brilliance” in color theory:
https://books.google.com/books?id=O9V7DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&dq=brilliance+brilliant wrote:Saturation & Intensity

A color's saturation, also called its “intensity” or “chroma,” refers to its level of brilliance or dullness. A highly saturated color is very vibrant.
https://www.drawpaintacademy.com/color-saturation/ wrote:Saturation Versus Chroma

The term saturation is often used interchangeably with the term chroma. They broadly mean the same thing, however, it is important to understand the subtle difference between the two terms.

Saturation is a relative term. It describes a color's brilliance in relation to pure gray.

Chroma, on the other hand, is an absolute term that can be measured on a scale. In the Munsell Color System, each color has been designated a chroma rank, from 0 for gray to 12+ for vivid colors.

If you were being particular, then chroma is more appropriate than saturation for comparing the brilliance of two different colors. But practically speaking, your use of saturation or chroma will not influence your painting. Personally, I only use the term saturation to describe a color's brilliance and avoid the use of chroma to keep things simple.
https://www.munsell.com/color-blog/color-theory-drawing-value/ wrote:Chroma and Layering

Chroma means the highest saturation or brilliance of a color. In a Munsell scale chroma ranges from 0 to 16, where 0 is a neutral gray and 16 is the most pure, saturated color.

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