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XnView 0.96:
Some more:
Paste Special -->
Paste outside Note: Normal "Paste" pastes the content of the clipboard inside the image
To the left -->
Left
To the right -->
Right
To the bottom -->
Bottom
To the top -->
Top
Alternatively, it could be 'Left side' instead of just 'Left', and so on. Personally, I think just "Left" is fine and short.
Some more:
Paste Special -->
Paste outside Note: Normal "Paste" pastes the content of the clipboard inside the image
To the left -->
Left
To the right -->
Right
To the bottom -->
Bottom
To the top -->
Top
Alternatively, it could be 'Left side' instead of just 'Left', and so on. Personally, I think just "Left" is fine and short.
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Re: ** English - English
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XnView MP 0.96.1:
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No elipsis in dialog title.
BTW: Is "Curves" really meaningful? To me "Curves" is the way you control RGB and Brilliance. So I think it should rather say something like "RGB/Brilliance" or similar? Other opinions?
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No elipsis in dialog title.
BTW: Is "Curves" really meaningful? To me "Curves" is the way you control RGB and Brilliance. So I think it should rather say something like "RGB/Brilliance" or similar? Other opinions?
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helmut wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:29 pm XnView MP 0.96.1:
Curves... (dialog title) -->
Curves Note: No ellipsis in dialog title.
BTW: Is "Curves" really meaningful? To me "Curves" is the way you control RGB and Brilliance. So I think it should rather say something like "RGB/Brilliance" or similar? Other opinions?
'Curves' is the usual term in image editing software, I believe, and provides more control than the [equally unmeaningful...] 'Levels' function
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O.k., thank you for your explanation, cday.
And what about "Curves (RGB/Brilliance)"?
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XnView MP 0.96:
There are two messages in the area of sessions:
A: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"
What's the difference of these messages? When is message A displayed, when message B? In message A the term "tabs" is used while in message B the term "images" is used - is this on purpose?
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There is no elipsis already
When asking about saving session at exitingA: "Saving many tabs may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
At startupB: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this can cause a slowdown!"
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B: "Your previous session contains many loaded images, this may noticeably slow reopening XnView MP"
The above text seems clearer as it is only reopening that is slowed...
[If too long, 'noticeably' could be omitted.]
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As you can see in the screenshot of XnView 0.96 (English) there is an elipsis in the dialog title: EDIT: From what I can see the appropriate (wrong) label is here:
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<message>
<location filename="DlgCurves.h" line="41"/>
<source>Curves...</source>
<translatorcomment>Dialog Title</translatorcomment>
<translation>Kurven (RGB/Brillianz)</translation>
</message>
Thank you for your answer, Pierre. Could you please be a bit more precise? Are these messages displayed always (i.e. when you have one or more tabs/images opened) or only if a specific number or more tabs/images are opened? Why is the term "tab" used in message A and the term "images" in message B?
@cday: Thank you for your answer and suggestion for a more precise message text. Let's wait first for Pierre's answer to better understand the context and then decide on the text.
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XnView MP 0.96.1:
The 'Use CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files. ->
The 'Use multiple CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files Note: Text of setting was changed
The 'Use CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files. ->
The 'Use multiple CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files Note: Text of setting was changed
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A is displayed when you more than 1 tabs at exit, and B is displayed when you have more than 7 tabs/images. if use 'tab' in A because we can see them, and 'image' at opening is better.helmut wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:51 pm Thank you for your answer, Pierre. Could you please be a bit more precise? Are these messages displayed always (i.e. when you have one or more tabs/images opened) or only if a specific number or more tabs/images are opened? Why is the term "tab" used in message A and the term "images" in message B?
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Please, guys, we've been there before: The (tone) curves tool is used to adjust the tonality.
PS: RGB Curve EditingXnTriq wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:30 amhelmut wrote:Hmm, perhaps I'm out of the graphic business for too long. When speaking of curves I'd rather think of splines than RGB or brilliance curves. Perhaps something like "Curves (RGB & Brilliance)" would make things a bit clearer? But I don't mind keeping "Curves".helmut wrote:"Curves" -->
"Curves"If we have to deviate from the standard terminology, “Tone curves” would be my choice. “Curves (Luma & RGB)...” and “Levels (Luma & RGB)...” seem really odd to me.
- Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC Tutorials: Adjustments with the Tone Curve
- The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book: Lightroom vs. Photoshop curves
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Oops, right. Thank you, XnTriq, for pointing us to this old discussion. And conclusion was/is: No change. Right?XnTriq wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:15 am Please, guys, we've been there before: The (tone) curves tool is used to adjust the tonality.
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Thank you for your explanation, Pierre. I think XnView's behaviour and messages are a bit unclear and inconsistent in this area. This topic is about translation and I want to avoid hijacking it, so I've started a new topic Improved messages for sessions.
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As cday pointed out, curves and levels are standard tools in image (as well as video) editing.
https://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=433334&seqNum=3 wrote:Correcting Tone and Contrast with Curves
If you're using Photoshop 7, CS, or CS2, then you have access to Curves, another type of tone and contrast correction tool. Curves allows you to do the same thing as Levels – brighten and darken the pixel values of your image – but it uses a very different interface.
If we have to deviate from the commonly used terminology, I'd go for “Tone Curves”.https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-tool-curves.html wrote:The Curves tool is the most sophisticated tool for changing the color, brightness, contrast or transparency of the active layer or a selection. While the Levels tool allows you to work on Shadows and Highlights, the Curves tool allows you to work on any tonal range. It works on RGB images.
“Brilliance” in color theory:
https://books.google.com/books?id=O9V7DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&dq=brilliance+brilliant wrote:Saturation & Intensity
A color's saturation, also called its “intensity” or “chroma,” refers to its level of brilliance or dullness. A highly saturated color is very vibrant.
https://www.drawpaintacademy.com/color-saturation/ wrote:Saturation Versus Chroma
The term saturation is often used interchangeably with the term chroma. They broadly mean the same thing, however, it is important to understand the subtle difference between the two terms.
Saturation is a relative term. It describes a color's brilliance in relation to pure gray.
Chroma, on the other hand, is an absolute term that can be measured on a scale. In the Munsell Color System, each color has been designated a chroma rank, from 0 for gray to 12+ for vivid colors.
If you were being particular, then chroma is more appropriate than saturation for comparing the brilliance of two different colors. But practically speaking, your use of saturation or chroma will not influence your painting. Personally, I only use the term saturation to describe a color's brilliance and avoid the use of chroma to keep things simple.
https://www.munsell.com/color-blog/color-theory-drawing-value/ wrote:Chroma and Layering
Chroma means the highest saturation or brilliance of a color. In a Munsell scale chroma ranges from 0 to 16, where 0 is a neutral gray and 16 is the most pure, saturated color.
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XnView 0.98.2
Dialog: InfoIPTC
Copy rights -->
Copyright
Copy in clipboard -->
Copy to clipboard
Positions in Dialog DlgConvertCanvas
Currently:
Top left
Top
Top right
Left
Center
Right
Bottom left
Bottom
Bottom right
Suggestion (see Dialog DlgConvertBorderClass, for example):
Top left
Top center
Top right
Center left
Center
Center right
Bottom left
Bottom center
Bottom right
Do you want to delete all your template's name? -->
Do you want to delete all your name templates?
Dialog: InfoIPTC
Copy rights -->
Copyright
Copy in clipboard -->
Copy to clipboard
Positions in Dialog DlgConvertCanvas
Currently:
Top left
Top
Top right
Left
Center
Right
Bottom left
Bottom
Bottom right
Suggestion (see Dialog DlgConvertBorderClass, for example):
Top left
Top center
Top right
Center left
Center
Center right
Bottom left
Bottom center
Bottom right
Do you want to delete all your template's name? -->
Do you want to delete all your name templates?