Playing Video clips - When required

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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote: I can play videos in Windows 7 64 bit in XnviewMP 0.75
with XnViewMP 32 or 64bits?
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Both work in Windows 7 64 bit. I just tried now.

Windows XP 32 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x32 (Sep 21 2015) > doesn't play videos
Windows 7 64 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x32 (Sep 21 2015) > plays videos
Windows 7 64 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x64 (Sep 21 2015) > plays videos
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote: Some are related to preview pane playing the video when preview pane is closed.
Sorry, this is where I misunderstood what you wanted.

As far as double click on video" with preview window open", This seems to work fine for me. As soon as i double click a video file already playing in preview. Video quits playing in the preview and opens in the fullscreen. Double click again and it goes back to browser mode. I Thought this was a concern, sorry.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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This seems to work fine for me. As soon as i double click a video file already playing in preview. Video quits playing in the preview and opens in the fullscreen.
That's strange because it doesn't happen on my computer (win 7 64 bit using 0.75 64 bit). If I double click while preview is playing, nothing happens. It just continues playing. If the video is not playing and I double click, it ignores my double click and pretends I single clicked and starts playing in the preview pane even if the preview pane is closed.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote:
That's strange because it doesn't happen on my computer (win 7 64 bit using 0.75 64 bit). If I double click while preview is playing, nothing happens. It just continues playing. If the video is not playing and I double click, it ignores my double click and pretends I single clicked and starts playing in the preview pane even if the preview pane is closed.
I Thought maybe this was one of the problems you were describing. Only thing i can think that is different is your settings.
This is what i have. Maybe have a try at these...

Under interface>>Switching Mode... "Use Double click to switch Between" = Browser<>Fullscreen | Viewer<>Fulscreen , The other two are set to Browser<>Viewer
Under View>> Misc.... "Play Video" = Is Checked.
Under Filelist>> Custom filter... "Video" = All Boxes are checked under video.
Under Filelist>> Custom filter... "Open with" = Xnview.
{Edit} You still have to press play button once your in fullscreen. Also thier is an autoplay option under view>>view that controls preview autoplay. I missed :-

Maybe these settings will help. Hope I haven't missed something related. Some settings are hard to find and not well worded. I Find myself searching all the time.
Be sure to restart program because this has happen to me, settings not want to take hold right away.
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Teo wrote:Both work in Windows 7 64 bit. I just tried now.

Windows XP 32 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x32 (Sep 21 2015) > doesn't play videos
Windows 7 64 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x32 (Sep 21 2015) > plays videos
Windows 7 64 bit + XnviewMP Version 0.75 x64 (Sep 21 2015) > plays videos
I've a reply from QT Team.

"In Qt 4.8 we use DirectShow as a multimedia backend while in Qt 5 the default backend is WMF (Windows Media Foundation)"

So XnViewMP doens't use anymore DirectShow codec. I'll try to build QT with Directshow codec support...
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Erixx haxx wrote:I Thought maybe this was one of the problems you were describing. Only thing i can think that is different is your settings.
This is what i have. Maybe have a try at these...

Under interface>>Switching Mode... "Use Double click to switch Between" = Browser<>Fullscreen | Viewer<>Fulscreen , The other two are set to Browser<>Viewer
OK, now I see what you mean when you said it works for you. You have set it to go full screen from browser, skipping the new tab view in viewer. A few messages before, in my table I had 3 columns for settings (the first 3 columns). That means I should add one more for "Settings > Interface > Switch Mode > Use double click for". This will double the rows. You have basically found that each row in my table should be divided to two rows and in some cases one of the rows works.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote:OK, now I see what you mean when you said it works for you.
Yes, I See now...
Videos won't open by double click when "Switching Mode">> ["Use Double click to switch between"] is set to "Browser<>Viewer"

Not sure if its a bug or just by design though.

Win7x64
Xnviewmp v0.75x64
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Why would it be by design that videos don't work but images do? With the same settings if you click on a photo, the photo opens in a new tab as expected but the video doesn't do anything.

In all software I have ever used in my life, when you double click on a video, it plays, except xnview. Xnview is the only software I have seen where double click doesn't play a video.

Not only video, but all files will open when you double click on them. For example mp3 files will start playing, exe files will launch, image files will open, folders will open etc. Show me a software and a file type where the following is not correct:

Double click = right click + open

In xnview when I "right click + open", it correctly opens the video in new tab. When I double click, it should do the exact same thing. Instead it doesn't do anything. It is very simple:

Double click on video >> don't do anything >> incorrect
Double click on video >> play video >> correct

Why would I want any software to do nothing when I double click? What is the logic behind it. That is incredibly illogical. This is as logical as cutting the USB cable of a mouse and then arguing that this is good because the user wants the mouse to do nothing. It is as logical as adding a picture of a button instead an actual button and then arguing that users want a button that doesn't do anything.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote:Why would I want any software to do nothing when I double click? What is the logic behind it. That is incredibly illogical. This is as logical as cutting the USB cable of a mouse and then arguing that this is good because the user wants the mouse to do nothing. It is as logical as adding a picture of a button instead an actual button and then arguing that users want a button that doesn't do anything.
Hello,
All I said was "I am not sure if its a bug or not" Meaning i do not know. Only the Author can answer. "Maybe a bug or Maybe an option that hasn't been added yet".
Keeping in mind, this software isn't a video player, but it does play "Some" videos.
Then I posted ,
"A way to Reproduce the issue, What was expected to happen, and What was happening, As a corrected bug report in hopes that the Author could chime in and answer the issue found.

I am not the author or a moderator. Just someone trying to help.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Erixx haxx wrote:I am not the author or a moderator. Just someone trying to help.
I already knew that. You have too few messages to be the author or a moderator.
Erixx haxx wrote:Just someone trying to help.
Even young children know what double click means. Therefore I don't find it helpful at all that you are undermining my bug report by suggesting it is OK if double click doesn't play a video.
Erixx haxx wrote:Keeping in mind, this software isn't a video player, but it does play "Some" videos.
You sound like somebody who is trying to come up with excuses for this software similar to an apple fanboy would find excuses if people criticised an apple device.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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Teo wrote:
Erixx haxx wrote:I am not the author or a moderator. Just someone trying to help.
I already knew that. You have too few messages to be the author or a moderator.
Erixx haxx wrote:Just someone trying to help.
Even young children know what double click means. Therefore I don't find it helpful at all that you are undermining my bug report by suggesting it is OK if double click doesn't play a video.
Erixx haxx wrote:Keeping in mind, this software isn't a video player, but it does play "Some" videos.
You sound like somebody who is trying to come up with excuses for this software similar to an apple fanboy would find excuses if people criticised an apple device.
Your bug report is certainly appreciated, but so is the input from Erixx haxx who doesn't sound all that fanboyish to me:
Erixx haxx wrote:Some settings are hard to find and not well worded. I Find myself searching all the time.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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XnTriq,

I don't understand why you are quoting what was said earlier to defend the argument one message later. We are talking about this:
Erixx haxx wrote:Videos won't open by double click ... Not sure if its a bug or just by design though.
To say that "double click = do nothing" could be by design is incredibly illogical. When was the last time you double clicked on any file on any computer and the desired action was nothing?

XnviewMP 0.72 is capable of playing videos. In fact, it plays the video fine when I right click and select open. However, do you know what happens when I double click on the video? Nothing happens. This is an obvious design flaw. It is as obvious as a power cable that was cut in the middle. To argue that this could be by design is incredibly illogical.
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Teo wrote:I don't understand why you are quoting what was said earlier to defend the argument one message later.
What's not to understand here? I quoted the part of the discussion I'm referring to. It's as simple as that.
Teo wrote:We are talking about this:
Erixx haxx wrote:Videos won't open by double click ... Not sure if its a bug or just by design though.
You bet I know what this is about. Otherwise, I wouldn't have chimed in.
Nobody's denying that this issue needs to be addressed. Pierre has acknowledged that there have been changes in Qt 5. He also indicated that he's going to “try to build QT with Directshow codec support”. What more could you ask for at this point?
Teo wrote:To say that "double click = do nothing" could be by design is incredibly illogical.
Double-clicking a file in the browser can indeed be configured not to do anything:
  • Tools » Settings... » File list » Custom filter » Video » Open with » [ None ]
Of course, one can argue whether or not that makes sense, but it obviously wasn't implemented this way by accident.
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Re: Playing Video clips - When required

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XnTriq wrote:What's not to understand here? I quoted the part of the discussion I'm referring to. It's as simple as that.
Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:08 am << This his message you quoted
Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:15 am << That's his message that started the discussion

Why are you quoting his message from 1 Oct when my fanboyism comment was based on his 3 Oct message? I didn't say anything negative about earlier messages.
Erixx haxx wrote:What more could you ask for at this point?
No illogical arguments would be very nice.
XnTriq wrote:Double-clicking a file in the browser can indeed be configured not to do anything:
OK, let me get this straight. A software that can play videos does not play videos even though I want it to play videos and you think this is OK because another software has a setting to disable videos if you want to disable them. We are not talking about disabling double click play if this is what you want. We are talking about being unable to play videos even though you want to play them when you double click.

Imagine you bought a new car. When you go to take delivery, the rear seats are missing. You are super upset. You start shouting to the car salesman:

- Are you crazy? Where are the rear seats? What have you done to my new car?
- Sir, this is normal. I think this could be by design. I'm not sure. I don't really know.
- What do you mean by design? That's a bunch of rubbish.
- It could be. I don't know. It's possible.
- No new car is sold with missing rear seats.
- Sir, here let me show you on this other new car. As you see I can take out the rear seats if I want to. You see it's possible.
- ???!!!

In windows, when you double click to a video file, what happens? What does double click mean? I have a bunch of video files in front of me, I want to play one of them. I don't know how to use computers. What should I do to play a video file that is in front of me?
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