Less vivid colors are displayed and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Ask for help and post your question on how to use XnView MP.

Moderators: helmut, XnTriq, xnview

delerious
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu May 19, 2022 4:30 am

Less vivid colors are displayed and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by delerious »

I just installed the latest XnView MP.

I noticed a couple differences between viewing photos in Microsoft Photos and XnView MP:

1. When I told Microsoft Photos to "View actual size" on an image, and then told XnView MP to show the "Real size" for the same file, they actually showed them at different zoom levels.

2. Microsoft Photos seems to display the image with colors that are a bit more vivid than XnView MP.

Here's a screenshot showing Microsoft Photos (left) next to XnView MP (right), with both of them showing the exact same file at 100% zoom. Notice how XnView MP is zoomed in a bit more, and not quite as vivid as Microsoft Photos:

https://i.imgur.com/CVzYWyk.png

I noticed this with some different images too - both HEIC and JPG files. I wonder which program is showing the correct zoom level and the correct colors?
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 37889
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by xnview »

delerious wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 4:52 am 1. When I told Microsoft Photos to "View actual size" on an image, and then told XnView MP to show the "Real size" for the same file, they actually showed them at different zoom levels.
"Real size" is based on the dpi of screen a picture, so perhaps "view actual size" is a 100%
2. Microsoft Photos seems to display the image with colors that are a bit more vivid than XnView MP.
could you post the original file?do you use ICC color profile?
Pierre.
delerious
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu May 19, 2022 4:30 am

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by delerious »

Here is the original file. How do I tell if I use ICC color profile?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
cday
XnThusiast
Posts: 3294
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:45 am
Location: Cheltenham, U.K.

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by cday »

delerious wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:01 am Here is the original file. How do I tell if I use ICC color profile?
Tools > Settings... > General -- ICC tab

Default seems to be unselected.
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 37889
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by xnview »

you need to enable it
Pierre.
zarlan
Posts: 86
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:33 am

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by zarlan »

xnview wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 6:14 am"Real size" is based on the dpi of screen a picture, so perhaps "view actual size" is a 100%
So "Real size" isn't the real size? That makes no sense! …and where is this supposed "view actual size"? I looked for a command with that name, but couldn't find any such thing. (well, not on 0.99.7, at least)
…but I did find a 100% zoom command. And I can confirm that it gives a quite significantly different result, to the wrongly named "real size" command.
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 37889
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by xnview »

"real size" is not 100%, your photo will be displayed with same as print size
Pierre.
delerious
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu May 19, 2022 4:30 am

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by delerious »

Thanks, enabling the ICC profile and setting Zoom to 100% instead of using "real size" fixed both problems.

One other problem I just noticed is that when I right-click on an image in XnView MP, go to Zoom, and set it to anything other than 100%, it will still have the magnifying glass and the * next to 100% the next time I right-click it and go to Zoom.
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 37889
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: XnView MP displaying less vivid colors and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by xnview »

delerious wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:37 pm One other problem I just noticed is that when I right-click on an image in XnView MP, go to Zoom, and set it to anything other than 100%, it will still have the magnifying glass and the * next to 100% the next time I right-click it and go to Zoom.
Where?
Pierre.
delerious
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu May 19, 2022 4:30 am

Re: Less vivid colors are displayed and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by delerious »

Attached is a screenshot of a photo I zoomed in to 1600%. You can tell because it's so pixelated. But when I go back into the Zoom menu, it still has the magnifying glass and * on 100%. Shouldn't it be on 1600%?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 37889
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: Less vivid colors are displayed and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by xnview »

magnify glass is only an icon for 100%
Pierre.
zarlan
Posts: 86
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:33 am

Re: Less vivid colors are displayed and a different 100% zoom level than Microsoft Photos

Post by zarlan »

…and the * indicates that the keyboard shortcut for 100% zoom is *.
Much like the Ctrl+/, =, and -, that are shown on "Real size", Zoom in, and Zoom out, respectively, in your screenshot, due to those being the keyboard shortcuts for those commands.
(and if one changes or removes the shortcuts, under Settings - Interface - Shortcuts, the new shortcut will be shown instead …or, if you set them as "none" instead, nothing is shown)

Having a magnifying glass as icon for 100%, is rather ironic, BTW, given that it is the one and only state, in which there is no zoom whatsoever. (and, hence, no magnifying or minimizing)