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Post by ckit » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:54 pm

I'm with Helmut, we need to hijack the icons from XnView Deluxe.

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Post by Crysler » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:24 pm

ckit wrote:I'm with Helmut, we need to hijack the icons from XnView Deluxe.
Seconded

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Post by robc » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:10 pm

ckv wrote:XnView 1.82.1 is out and it haves a new main icon, but the 16x16 256 color icon looks piece of s*! :P

And once again I am forced to use my super powers and make a new shiny icon. *cough* arrogant bastard *cough* :mrgreen:
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ckv, I don't understand, this is the icon I get in 1.82.1 :shock: which I do like... are you running windows with just an 8bit color depth?

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Post by ckv » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:44 pm

robc wrote:ckv, I don't understand, this is the icon I get in 1.82.1 :shock: which I do like...
Have you ever hear about XP icons?

I don't have XP so I don't get to joy those alpha blended true color XP eye candy icons. :) You have XP and therefore you don't get the icon what I see. I thought that you know these things. :|

robc wrote:are you running windows with just an 8bit color depth?
No. Icons can have multiple color palettes. And those who don't have XP, will see the the true color or 256 color version of the icon and since since 16x16 icons haves only 256 (16*16=256) pixel in them, there's no point to make 16x16 true color icon.
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Post by robc » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:15 pm

I know that, ckv, I just supposed Pierre DIDN'T use alpha-blended icons since he said they didn't look good under W2K (of course)... I was mistaken.

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Post by XnTriq » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:30 pm

robc ([url=http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=25071#25071]05/Feb/2006[/url]) wrote:[...] For the above reasons, sometimes (I remember noticing it several times) the 16x16 icon is altogether different from the 32x32 and up, since in many cases just reducing the bigger image yields disastrous results... If the deLuxe icon (which I had never seen) is going to be used, that's fine, it looks nice to me: we just need to find out if it scales down well and can be made transparent (I assume the whitespace behind it is transparent in the sample you provided), otherwise we need to design a simpler image, just for the 16x16 format. I believe whoever designed the deLuxe icon is perfectly able to come out with a nice, transparent 16x16 image suitable to be used as the main application icon.
The following icons were extracted from “XnViewMediaDetector.exe”, which is part of XnView Deluxe 2. For convenience, I provide examples with different shades of background color: transparent, #ffffff (white), #d4d0c8 (light gray), #808080 (dark gray), #000000 (black).

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Post by helmut » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:56 pm

To be honest I'm a bit surprised to see a new icon in XnView 1.82. Perhaps I should have payed more attention to this discussion.

The new icon is o.k., though it looks very fragile. I think it should be a bit bolder. Also the orange looks a bit dirty and could be a bit fresher. The overall result is good, the "finishing" is a case for a real designer, I think.

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Post by Dreamer » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:17 am

helmut wrote:To be honest I'm a bit surprised to see a new icon in XnView 1.82. Perhaps I should have payed more attention to this discussion.

The new icon is o.k., though it looks very fragile. I think it should be a bit bolder. Also the orange looks a bit dirty and could be a bit fresher. The overall result is good, the "finishing" is a case for a real designer, I think.
Yes. Larger icons are not the best too...

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Post by helmut » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:56 am

Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:To be honest I'm a bit surprised to see a new icon in XnView 1.82. Perhaps I should have payed more attention to this discussion.

The new icon is o.k., though it looks very fragile. I think it should be a bit bolder. Also the orange looks a bit dirty and could be a bit fresher. The overall result is good, the "finishing" is a case for a real designer, I think.
Yes. Larger icons are not the best too...
The large icon (32x32) icon is the one I refered to in my above post. The 16x16 icon is just a bit blur, the rest is o.k..

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Post by robc » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:55 pm

XnTriq wrote:
robc ([url=http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=25071#25071]05/Feb/2006[/url]) wrote:[...] For the above reasons, sometimes (I remember noticing it several times) the 16x16 icon is altogether different from the 32x32 and up, since in many cases just reducing the bigger image yields disastrous results... If the deLuxe icon (which I had never seen) is going to be used, that's fine, it looks nice to me: we just need to find out if it scales down well and can be made transparent (I assume the whitespace behind it is transparent in the sample you provided), otherwise we need to design a simpler image, just for the 16x16 format. I believe whoever designed the deLuxe icon is perfectly able to come out with a nice, transparent 16x16 image suitable to be used as the main application icon.
The following icons were extracted from “XnViewMediaDetector.exe”, which is part of XnView Deluxe 2. For convenience, I provide examples with different shades of background color: transparent, #ffffff (white), #d4d0c8 (light gray), #808080 (dark gray), #000000 (black).

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I definitely support the DeLuxe iconset, though I'm already satisfied with the current 1.82 icon.

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Post by helmut » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:22 pm

Another problem of the new, small icon:
On Windows 2000 the icon is very hard to see in the grey menus.

(Sorry for critisizing, again, but I really think the new icon has been introduced too early).

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Post by ckv » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:03 pm

helmut wrote:Another problem of the new, small icon:
On Windows 2000 the icon is very hard to see in the grey menus.

(Sorry for critisizing, again, but I really think the new icon has been introduced too early).
I understand. The icon should be darker, but not much.

What you think? (lowest is current)
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Post by helmut » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:12 pm

ckv wrote:...
I understand. The icon should be darker, but not much.
Exactly.
ckv wrote:What you think? (lowest is current)
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Much better. :-) Personally I'd go for the second from bottom. The one at the top is too dark.

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Post by Dreamer » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:49 am

helmut wrote:
ckv wrote:What you think? (lowest is current)
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Much better. :-) Personally I'd go for the second from bottom. The one at the top is too dark.
Nice, I like the second from the top. The second from bottom is still a bit unclear on grey background.

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Post by ckit » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:57 am

I agree, we need a icon that is clear for grey backgrounds.

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