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Thinner separators, and double-click

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Don't you think that separators for tree panel and preview panel are too thick and they should be thinner?

Please add double-click on separator to hide/show panel.

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Re: Thinner separators, and double-click

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nightflyer wrote:Don't you think that separators for tree panel and preview panel are too thick and they should be thinner?
I agree: they should be no larger than the small colored handles. No need to add +2 pixels on sides... :(

Maybe better than double-click for hiding/showing: single click with highlighted separator... (a bit like in Opera).
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nightflyer wrote:Don't you think that separators for tree panel and preview panel are too thick and they should be thinner?

Please add double-click on separator to hide/show panel.
It was a request to add 2 pixels :-( So i remove it?
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xnview wrote:It was a request to add 2 pixels :-( So i remove it?
I can understand to enlarge the active area for selecting the separator (resize or show/hide)... but this is not the case here.

I prefer a thin separation with an enlarged active area rather than the opposite as we have here... :?
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I agree with Olivier_G, making separators thicker has no reason. You lose space and gain nothing (because resize button stays the same size).
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nightflyer wrote:I agree with Olivier_G, making separators thicker has no reason. You lose space and gain nothing (because resize button stays the same size).
Ok, so my question, button should be enlarge, or separator should be thinner?
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IMHO, "separator should be thinner"
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nightflyer wrote:I agree with Olivier_G, making separators thicker has no reason. You lose space and gain nothing (because resize button stays the same size).
Ok, so my question, button should be enlarge, or separator should be thinner?
What about this: "separator should be thinner" and "button should be enlarge", BUT only on mouse over. Hope you know what I mean, enlarge "button" only on mouse (cursor) over. Then it could move the separator and double click, or/and middle button click would hide a panel. Possible? What do you think?
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As I wrote, I am for "thinner spearators".
Also I am for Olivier_G idea of single-click on whole spearator, like in Opera.
Zooming Show/hide button- for me personally it is a kind of eye-candy that only disturbs. If I already pointed Show/hide button, why zoom it? Recently I have noticed there is a kind of trend for such Mac-like "improvements", for example in dock-bars, but I think they are for people who like playing with computer.
Generally auto-zooming is good when there are many small elements, to quickly look at details (like in thumbnail mode of cPicture). This is not the situation here.
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nightflyer wrote:As I wrote, I am for "thinner spearators".
Also I am for Olivier_G idea of single-click on whole spearator, like in Opera.
But which action has single click on whole separator if you have 2 possibilities? And how to change the size with mouse if single click is used for show/hide??
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OK, I did not think about it. So let's forget click on separator to show/hide. This is not very important.
In Opera, simply left outer border is active for clicks.
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I have checked, and the separator has a width of 6, like the picture. So you want a width of 4??
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nightflyer wrote:So let's forget click on separator to show/hide. This is not very important.
Not important for you perhaps!

For me, that single click on the separator to show/hide a panel is the MOST IMPORTANT NEW FEATURE IN XNView. It is a substantial, paradigm-changing improvement to the interface and I love it!!!

Please please please please don't remove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JohnFredC wrote:
nightflyer wrote:So let's forget click on separator to show/hide. This is not very important.
Not important for you perhaps!

For me, that single click on the separator to show/hide a panel is the MOST IMPORTANT NEW FEATURE IN XNView. It is a substantial, paradigm-changing improvement to the interface and I love it!!!

Please please please please don't remove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, but:
Which action has single click on whole separator if you have 2 possibilities? And how to change the size with mouse if single click is used for show/hide??
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Hi Pierre
Which action has single click on whole separator if you have 2 possibilities? And how to change the size with mouse if single click is used for show/hide??
Maybe I don't understand the question?

The way Alpha 3 works now is perfect: click the (new) little button on a splitter to show/hide the panel, drag the splitter itself to resize.

Most splitter implementations don't respond to single clicks. So I think the user wouldn't expect anything to happen. A double-click on the splitter control is frequently hide/show (or collapse/expand), so you could add that feature to your splitter implementation:

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Procedure Splitter.OnDoubleClick();
Begin
    SplitterButton.OnClick;
End
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