Folder tabs...

[ghost zero]

How about adding folder tabs? So we can keep multiple folders open without needing to open another XnView.

I suggest having 2 rows of tabs. One for folders and one for images.

[Clo]

—> ghost zero

Hello !

• OMG ! Just try to use those of Total Commander, and come back here…

• Please, for pity's sake don't open the Pandora's box !

- XnView is getting so complicated now, I wouldn't wish it becomes a gasworks…

• I think that i.e. optional enhanced Favourites as “Session Favourites”
coming with buttons on a (temporary) tool-bar could do the trick…

- Only my opinion, of course…

KR
Claude
Clo

[ghost zero]

i already use a tabbed file manager. but then managing pics i often set into the habit of opening multiple xnviews. so a folder tab feature would greatly save time and taskbar space.

[Troken]

How about adding folder tabs? So we can keep multiple folders open without needing to open another XnView.

I think it sounds like a resonable and modern idea, why not? It could be a nice complement to favourites, but more a temporaray kind of favourite. Would perhapps be a to advanced change for next version?

Clo
Not everybody uses Total Commander (incl. myself), could you be more precise about the tab-problem in TC?

[Clo]

—> Troken

Hello !

• Regardless the fact that TC has to manage the tabs in a dual-panel interface, as soon as you set tabs for folders,
this is getting too much complicated…
- Added since the 6.0 version (November, 2003) three years and half later
one discovers still some bugs or lacunæ in some situations…
- Infortunately, I couln't test that version (I am an official Alpha-beta tester) because mail issues @ Ghisler.
It's a pity, I would have yelled certainly “VETO !” before it be too late to change this erroneous basic design…

Not everybody uses Total Commander (incl. myself), …

• Except the nightmare of the tabs whether you enable them, you miss a mountain of great features…

…could you be more precise about the tab-problem in TC?

• It could need a full page ! Roughly, that doesn't work simply as expected like for files here or in Web browsers.
- Switching to another folder doesn't add another tab automatically, to keep the tabs requests a pretty gymnastic.
- You may test TC as a trial for free and for 30 working days
(it doesn't restrict any feature or add extra boring message beyond that trial period…)
• In XnView, there is also a GUI issue : Tabs would need to be set in the browser where the room is rather limited…
- If you would have tabs in View, you'ld have to switch into Browser mode an back continually…

• Please notice that I'm not against some enhanced display of temporary favourites,
but “pure” folder tabs are a stick in the b**…
- There are important things to change in XnView before to add such a feature, for instance switch to text files for the languages that I requested oficially almost two years ago (and much more as private requests) and needs a huge work…

KR
Claude
Clo

[JohnFredC]

I for one use TC continuously and think its Folder Tabs implementation is very good. Perhaps not quite as good in some ways as SpeedCommander's (the file manager interface design king, IMHO) , but still quite good (sorry to disagree, Clo).

However, here is a different way to think about XnView and Folder Tabs:

Perhaps the "folder tabs" request above could be addressed by allowing Multiple Browser Tabs in XnView. Multiple Browser tabs (which have been requested before) could perform most of the functionality of Folder tabs and fit perfectly into the existing XnView interface paradigm.

[foxyshadis]

If tabs were implemented entirely as bookmarks, that wouldn't be as much of a problem. Cicking on a tab would cause the browser to traverse to a folder, it would not hold multiple browser windows in memory as TC does. You lose a little flexibility doing this, but you gain a great deal of internal simplicity. An important consideration is that the selected file(s) will have to be remembered, in order to keep the illusion, and scrollbar position would be nice but probably isn't critical.

When you really starting thinking, a lot of potential problems with real tabs show up. How do you deal with tags? Are they global, as they are now, or per-tab specific? Because per-tab will be the more intuitive method. (And how do you then integrate that with other ways of accessing tags.) When changing sort order, again, is that global? Making it local leads to all kinds of problems, but making them global also means you now have to control many browser windows with a separate global controller that has to keep them all in sync, a big change for xnview. Many settings have to be entirely rethought to make this kind of change and heavily tested afterward. (Oftentimes, they aren't thought about until the change is made, at which point there's a painful transition period that Clo brings up.)

Another possibility: If the last 4-5 viewed folders were permanently pinned to the top of the folder tree window (not the tree itself, they have to always be visible), that would take care of most of the reason to want tabs right there.

[Clo]

—> JohnFredC

Hello Jonh !

I for one use TC continuously and think its Folder Tabs implementation is very good. …

• This is your opinion, John, I respect it but it's far to be mine…

• For any sensible “Lambda” user, “Aunty Agatha” and I, the very basic behaviour with which the first tab goes away
when you open a second folder is quite crazy…To keep several tabs :

- Rummage in a menu?

- Tickle a lot of keys ? Needs 14 fingers at least…

- Get a headache while attempting to configure that illogicality ?

• Sorry for that ½ OT, but never this in XvView !

…However, here is a different way to think about XnView and Folder Tabs: …

• Certainly, but I guess that several Browsers as tabs are too greedy at memory¦resources…

• An appropriate compromise could be found, but like I said in the last paragraph above,
there is an¦other urgent improvement¦s to place at the top of the Pierre's ToDo list…

kR
Claude
Clo
Note for the French-speaking readers : sensible = sensé¦e !

[Clo]

–> foxyshadis

Hello !

• I see some good points in your message…

When you really starting thinking, a lot of potential problems with real tabs show up. …

• Absolutely… That I tell above about TC is real… And in XnView, it could not cause less annoyances, maybe the opposite.

…Another possibility: If the last 4-5 viewed folders were permanently pinned to the top of the folder tree window (not the tree itself, they have to always be visible), that would take care of most of the reason to want tabs right there.

• I could agree and support (later) something in that painting,
I've submitted a similar idea to Pierre via P.M., I hope he'll answer soon…

KR
Claude
Clo

[ghost zero]

any progress?

[ghost zero]

I suggest having 2 rows of tabs. One for folders and one for images.

[Danny]

Perhaps the "folder tabs" request above could be addressed by allowing Multiple Browser Tabs in XnView. Multiple Browser tabs (which have been requested before) could perform most of the functionality of Folder tabs and fit perfectly into the existing XnView interface paradigm.

I agree. They're all just windows inside XNView anyway.

[AlterMann]

Personally i don't like any tabs until we really need! Because it does more complicate the UI usage and takes some line from view. (For example, i am disabling tabs of XnView already.)

I think a second "folders" tab will do complicate things needlessly.

[ghost zero]

i find myself opening 2 xnviews for copying and moving files around folders. if we can have tabs for folder or split screen viewing of folders, that would help a lot.