b1: Thumbnails for folders - long creating

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Still not fixed / changed. It's quite annoying... :(
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Dreamer wrote:I think it's absolutely clear. The problem might be to implement the same behavior to folders, but at least thumbnails for folders should be created first and then thumbnails for images the same way as now.
Currently i can only start thumbnail folder creation at the begining or at the end. So which is better?
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At the end, because the current folder (and its contents) is the most interesting for an user & 4in1 creation is longer that for normal thumbnails.

For the future the described approach should be used (render first what is currently displayed).

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Xyzzy wrote:At the end, because the current folder (and its contents) is the most interesting for an user & 4in1 creation is longer that for normal thumbnails.
I strongly disagree.

- creation of image thumbnails is very long sometimes and 4in1 thumbnails feature is useless then
- old icons are displayed first, it's not nice
- you can disable 4in1 thubmnails
- you can disable folders completely
- 4in1 creation is NOT so much longer (more above)

And some help from Helmut :wink:
Helmut wrote:I guess my suggested approach is hard to implement, so we should implement the solution that you have suggested (creation of thumbnails for folders first, then thumbnail for images).
Xyzzy wrote:For the future the described approach should be used (render first what is currently displayed).

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But now "currently displayed" are folders (first)...
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Dreamer wrote: - creation of image thumbnails is very long sometimes and 4in1 thumbnails feature is useless then
- Creation of 4in1 thumbnails is very long sometimes, especially when there are many directories with videos inside. And I sit and wait for these 4in1s to display... while first I'd like to see current directory.
Dreamer wrote: - old icons are displayed first, it's not nice
Your personal preference. Mine is faster directory contents display. And that's the point: the most important for the user is current directory=it's contents. Can you make up another GENERAL logic?
Dreamer wrote: - you can disable 4in1 thubmnails
- you can disable folders completely
I can even use Filter, that's faster. So what? We are talking about view with enabled 4in1s and folders.
Dreamer wrote: - 4in1 creation is NOT so much longer (more above)
Relative. Too long for me.
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Xyzzy wrote:For the future the described approach should be used (render first what is currently displayed).
But now "currently displayed" are folders (first)...
But I cannot stop creation with scrolling down if all folders are to be rendered first. That's the problem.

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Xyzzy wrote:
Dreamer wrote: - creation of image thumbnails is very long sometimes and 4in1 thumbnails feature is useless then
- Creation of 4in1 thumbnails is very long sometimes, especially when there are many directories with videos inside. And I sit and wait for these 4in1s to display... while first I'd like to see current directory.
How long? Maybe you have some strange problem, for me it almost immediate.
BTW I must wait 20 or 30 seconds while thumbnails for many images are creating.
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Dreamer wrote:- you can disable 4in1 thubmnails
- you can disable folders completely
I can even use Filter, that's faster. So what? We are talking about view with enabled 4in1s and folders.
Right, so you have 3 possibilities to disable 4in1 thumbnails and see image thumbnails immediately, I have NO possibility to show 4in1 thumbnails first.
most important for the user is current directory=it's contents
Right, but contents are also folders.
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Still not changed in RC3, somebody help me please... :(
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Dreamer wrote:Still not changed in RC3, somebody help me please... :(
I don't know what to do, at the beginning or at the end....
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Post by JohnFredC »

I prefer that the folder icons be built at the beginning because of the way I store images. My folder tree consists of a parent folder with many subfolders. The parent folder has no (or few images in it). This schema applies all the way down the folder hierarchy... that is, the majority of the images is stored in folders at the bottom (not top) of the folder hierarchy.

So, as I navigate down the folder hierarchy, it is most important for me to see the folder icons FIRST, regardless of the image contents of the folder.

Hope this helps!
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xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Still not changed in RC3, somebody help me please... :(
I don't know what to do, at the beginning or at the end....
Just Xyzzy wants the current behavior, me, Helmut and JohnFredC want 4in1 thumbnails first.

Check these posts please:

http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=23657#23657
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=24176#24176
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Post by Dreamer »

XnView should track which items are visible to the user and ensure that these are built up - when opening a folder but also when scrolling while the thumbnails are about being created. That's a slight but important difference.
Not fixed - postponed.
I guess my suggested approach is hard to implement, so we should implement the solution that you have suggested (creation of thumbnails for folders first, then thumbnail for images).
Fixed.
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