Online help on Macintosh

Ask for help and post your question on how to use XnView Classic.

Moderators: XnTriq, xnview

Post Reply
Wouter Hagens
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:40 am

Online help on Macintosh

Post by Wouter Hagens » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:51 am

I am working on Macintosh X 10.3.8. As far as could find out, there does not exist a help file for Mac. On the download page nothing is mentioned.
I downloaded the help-en.chm file, but it can not be opened by XnView or another program.

How to obtain the helpfile.

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by helmut » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:44 pm

Wouter Hagens wrote:I am working on Macintosh X 10.3.8. As far as could find out, there does not exist a help file for Mac. On the download page nothing is mentioned.
I downloaded the help-en.chm file, but it can not be opened by XnView or another program.

How to obtain the helpfile.
Currently, the online help is available as Windows Help document, only (.chm).

The .chm file is created from single HTML pages, with some effort an Online help could be created which can be viewed with your normal browser. Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames? If so, the table of contents could appear in a frame on the left and the contents on the right.

Wouter Hagens
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:40 am

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by Wouter Hagens » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:03 pm

helmut wrote:
Wouter Hagens wrote:I am working on Macintosh X 10.3.8. As far as could find out, there does not exist a help file for Mac. On the download page nothing is mentioned.
I downloaded the help-en.chm file, but it can not be opened by XnView or another program.

How to obtain the helpfile.
Currently, the online help is available as Windows Help document, only (.chm).

The .chm file is created from single HTML pages, with some effort an Online help could be created which can be viewed with your normal browser. Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames? If so, the table of contents could appear in a frame on the left and the contents on the right.
YES

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by helmut » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:34 pm

Wouter Hagens wrote:...
Helmut wrote: ...
The .chm file is created from single HTML pages, with some effort an Online help could be created which can be viewed with your normal browser. Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames? If so, the table of contents could appear in a frame on the left and the contents on the right.
YES
Not quite clear what your "Yes" means and refers to.

User avatar
Aokromes
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:40 am
Location: Vitoria-Gasteiz Beyond Stargate Network ;)

Post by Aokromes » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:56 pm

With firefox of course they have frames, and i think also with most of others too.

Wouter Hagens
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:40 am

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by Wouter Hagens » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:14 pm

helmut wrote:
Wouter Hagens wrote:...
Helmut wrote: ...
The .chm file is created from single HTML pages, with some effort an Online help could be created which can be viewed with your normal browser. Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames? If so, the table of contents could appear in a frame on the left and the contents on the right.
YES
Not quite clear what your "Yes" means and refers to.
The Yes is the answer on the question: "Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames?"
It would be great when the compiled HTML file "help-en.chm" can be converted back to a HTML file.

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by helmut » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:36 pm

Wouter Hagens wrote:...The Yes is the answer on the question: "Do web browsers on McIntosh support frames?"
It would be great when the compiled HTML file "help-en.chm" can be converted back to a HTML file.
That's clear now. Actually, the .chm files are created from .html files. So all the HTML files and images are available.
The HTML based online help for Macintosh should also have a table of contents and search functionality. I'm currently looking for ways to achieve that, I think a solution is near.

User avatar
Dreamer
XnThusiast
Posts: 4605
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:08 pm
Location: Slovakia

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by Dreamer » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:44 pm

Wouter Hagens wrote:It would be great when the compiled HTML file "help-en.chm" can be converted back to a HTML file.
Try this...

CHM2HTML Pilot allows you to easily convert CHM documents into a set of nicely formatted HTML files, complete with framed navigation menu...

chm2web is an easy to use tool for on-the-fly conversion of compiled HTML Help files (.chm) into ready-to-publish web pages...

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: Help file for Macintosh

Post by helmut » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:04 am

Dreamer wrote:...
Try this...

CHM2HTML Pilot allows you to easily convert CHM documents into a set of nicely formatted HTML files, complete with framed navigation menu...

chm2web is an easy to use tool for on-the-fly conversion of compiled HTML Help files (.chm) into ready-to-publish web pages...
Thank you Dreamer for pointing those tools. I also stumbled over chm2web and have tried a conversion. The result is pretty good but needs some fine tuning. I'll check out the CHM2HTML and see what that one can do. I think one or the other will make the job.

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post by helmut » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:14 am

As written before, chm2web does the job well, but not 100%.

There's free chm readers available for MacOS X. Think that's a better way than converting HTML files back and forth.
Such a freeware chm viewer is http://chmox.sourceforge.net/.

Could you, Wouter or a Macintosh user check "chmox" out?

Wouter Hagens
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:40 am

Post by Wouter Hagens » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:43 am

helmut wrote:....There's free chm readers available for MacOS X. Think that's a better way than converting HTML files back and forth.
Such a freeware chm viewer is http://chmox.sourceforge.net/.

Could you, Wouter or a Macintosh user check "chmox" out?
I tried it and it works fine! Problem solved.
May be to include the helpfile + info/link to cmox on page http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pierre.g/xnview ... acosx.html

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8153
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post by helmut » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:26 am

Wouter Hagens wrote:
helmut wrote:....There's free chm readers available for MacOS X. Think that's a better way than converting HTML files back and forth.
Such a freeware chm viewer is http://chmox.sourceforge.net/.

Could you, Wouter or a Macintosh user check "chmox" out?
I tried it and it works fine! Problem solved.
May be to include the helpfile + info/link to cmox on page http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pierre.g/xnview ... acosx.html
Good to hear that you can view the XnView Online help file using "chmox". Installing downloading and installing chmox is some extra for the Macintosh users, but I think it's o.k. and not too much work.

Not sure what the integration of the Online help with XnView is like on Macintosh using chmox:
On Windows, when pressing F1 the Online help opens up. Perhaps this works on Macintosh, already. If not, with some change/option might become possible.

Post Reply