Handling of File types

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Handling of File types

Post by hayama » Thu May 26, 2005 8:38 pm

What happened to the 'File types' option? XnView supports so many formats that I often limit it to just the more common ones. It makes the list in Save As a lot more manageable.

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Re: File types

Post by xnview » Fri May 27, 2005 9:31 am

hayama wrote:What happened to the 'File types' option? XnView supports so many formats that I often limit it to just the more common ones. It makes the list in Save As a lot more manageable.
I have remove it, but now many users ask for it :-(
Is it really needed?
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Post by scratch » Fri May 27, 2005 9:39 am

it makes it easier to choose the format you want to save as.

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Post by xnview » Fri May 27, 2005 11:59 am

scratch wrote:it makes it easier to choose the format you want to save as.
Yes, right. Anyone agree?
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Post by Hacker » Fri May 27, 2005 1:54 pm

I also don't see any reason to remove it. I agree with hayama and scratch.

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Post by Dreamer » Fri May 27, 2005 11:56 pm

OK, I suggest to add them as submenu of "Associations" - to prevent confusion, user must first click to Associations, so he will see what is what...

e.g.:

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[+] Associations
    |
    +--File Types

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Post by marsh » Sat May 28, 2005 1:48 am

Does everyone notice that 'View as name' can associate by file type?

Would it help to rename 'View as name' to 'Sort by file type'?
Would it help to rename 'View as extension' to 'Sort by extension'?
I never used or understood the removed menu. Was it not redundant?

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Post by hayama » Sat May 28, 2005 8:51 am

Dreamer wrote:OK, I suggest to add them as submenu of "Associations"
The two could even be merged together.

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File types     Associate
[] bmp            []
[] gif            []
[] jpg            []

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Post by helmut » Sat May 28, 2005 11:38 am

In options dialog, General > Startup there's a setting "Use all formats available". This (more or less) hidden option determines which formats will be available in the drop down lists of the Open & Save dialog.

Determining the formats at startup needed quite some time, this is basically the reason why Pierre has changed this.

Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3):
With Standard formats active (default), there is about 120 formats listed in the drop down list. This is far too much. Basically I need about four formats, so I have to search the list all the time. No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.

I think another solution must be found here. The way it is now is too restrictive. We can discuss the current situation in this thread.

Please also have a look at the discussion and suggestions in topic 'Wishlist: simplified file associations'.

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Post by Dreamer » Sat May 28, 2005 4:24 pm

helmut wrote:Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3): ... No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.

I think another solution must be found here.
I fully agree, so I suggest:

1. Use the most used formats

2. Use the most used formats and these:

[ *.raw;*.img ] - (with ability to manually add any extension(s) here)

3. Use all formats available


Maybe that second option could be also in Associations.

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Post by xnview » Mon May 30, 2005 7:44 am

helmut wrote:Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3):
With Standard formats active (default), there is about 120 formats listed in the drop down list. This is far too much. Basically I need about four formats, so I have to search the list all the time. No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.
Right :-(
So the problem is only to be able to configure file type list for save dialog. Right?
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Post by scratch » Mon May 30, 2005 8:01 am

yup. i like hayama's suggestion.

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Post by xnview » Mon May 30, 2005 10:05 am

scratch wrote:yup. i like hayama's suggestion.
I can't make associations & file type for saving in the same dialog.
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Post by Dreamer » Mon May 30, 2005 1:06 pm

scratch,
xnview wrote:
scratch wrote:yup. i like hayama's suggestion.
I can't make associations & file type for saving in the same dialog.
I've already suggested that in other (old) topic, but it's not possible.

Check my "blue" idea above...

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Post by ckv » Mon May 30, 2005 1:32 pm

xnview wrote:I have remove it, but now many users ask for it :-(
Is it really needed?
I don't use it... but the idea is good.
Dreamer wrote: 1. Use the most used formats

2. Use the most used formats and these:

[ *.raw;*.img ] - (with ability to manually add any extension(s) here)

3. Use all formats available
So I prefer this idea.
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