Categories are not displayed

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Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:35 am

Hello there!
XnView MP version is 0.96
I set categories, but they don't display in column Categories
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I reinstalled program, nothing changed
Hope for your help

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by michel038 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:11 am

Hi
"Categories" is a tool in XnViewMP that mirrors keywords and displays/updates the keywords database.
Settings are located in "Tools, options, Metadata" ...

"Catergories" is also an old iptc metadata that you can access in the "Edit iptc/xmp" window, but that nobody uses anymore.

If you want to see "Categories" from the first definition in the browser, you can only diplay "IPTC keywords" column.
If "create iptc" is not enabled in settings metadata, no iptc keywords are written in photos, and I think you can't diplay xmp keywords

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:43 pm

michel038 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:11 am
Hi
"Categories" is a tool in XnViewMP that mirrors keywords and displays/updates the keywords database.
Settings are located in "Tools, options, Metadata" ...

"Catergories" is also an old iptc metadata that you can access in the "Edit iptc/xmp" window, but that nobody uses anymore.

If you want to see "Categories" from the first definition in the browser, you can only diplay "IPTC keywords" column.
If "create iptc" is not enabled in settings metadata, no iptc keywords are written in photos, and I think you can't diplay xmp keywords
1. In 'Tools' i don't see 'options', but there is Metadata, but item 'Edit iptc/xmp' is disabled
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2. I don't see the "IPTC keywords" column https://i.imgur.com/coCMOhE.png
3. My settings is: Image

Please, can you explain me how to turn ON 'categories' in simple words

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by michel038 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:04 pm

I apologize
1. In 'Tools' i don't see 'options', but there is Metadata, but item 'Edit iptc/xmp' is disabled
I should say Tools, settings, Metadata menu (in this screen, settings are set for "categories tool" usage )
In your screenshot, we can see "Create XMP data" and "create iptc data" , Your settings seems correct.

Then select an image, check a category (in the categories panel), and select another image to release the first one.

Now you can see a keyword (= the checked category) in the main screen for this image.
(Bug until V0.95, sometimes keywords are not immediately displayed: select another folder, and come back to your folder to refresh the display)
2. I don't see the "IPTC keywords" column
The name of this column is "Keywords" , it's already checked in your screenshot (from imgur.com)

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:58 pm

'Categories' is IPTC>Categories
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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:06 pm

xnview wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:58 pm
'Categories' is IPTC>Categories
Where it is? Should I change some options?

michel038 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:04 pm
Then select an image, check a category (in the categories panel), and select another image to release the first one.
It's videos (mp4). Maybe that's reason ?
I select video, set Categories by checking items in list and after click to another video. But nothing happen
michel038 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:04 pm
(Bug until V0.95, sometimes keywords are not immediately displayed: select another folder, and come back to your folder to refresh the display)
Selected another folders. I restarted program, reinstalled it. But nothing changes
Is there other ways to solve the bug? (Do i understand correctly that it's bug in my case?)

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:24 pm

fd2 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:06 pm
xnview wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:58 pm
'Categories' is IPTC>Categories
Where it is? Should I change some options?
In detail view, currently you can't have the Categories (only IPTC>Categories)
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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:51 pm

xnview wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:24 pm
In detail view, currently you can't have the Categories
Why it's not implement? No one use? Or some difficulty with code? Just interesting
xnview wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:24 pm
(only IPTC>Categories)
It looks like mp4 format doesn't support it

michel038, xnview ,Thank you for your help! I appreciate it

I have another question then:
How to mark videos with my own flags?
I mean there are rating and colored labels, i want to create my own labels with possibility to set multiply labels to one video
In order to sort and filter them later

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:05 pm

fd2 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:51 pm
xnview wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:24 pm
In detail view, currently you can't have the Categories
Why it's not implement? No one use? Or some difficulty with code? Just interesting
Not requested :) you can configure it in 'thumbnails+labels'
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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:30 am

ImageI already did it. But it doesn't work too

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:18 am

it seems that your file has no IPTC:Categories (video has no IPTC), if you want to use catalog categories, please use {Categories} as labels
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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:25 am

xnview wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:18 am
it seems that your file has no IPTC:Categories (video has no IPTC)
In that case i have a question: We get that videos have no IPTC:Categories,
But information about selected categories is saved into .XMP files.
And when i select video - it's correctly show selected categories in the 'Categories' section
Why it doesn't show same in the list? Data stored correctly and showed correctly in one place, but in another place it doesn't https://i.imgur.com/xiVtfge.gifv
xnview wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:18 am
if you want to use catalog categories, please use {Categories} as labels
What the 'catalog categories' ?
How can i do it?

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:20 pm

in your case, you export catalog categories in xmp, currently there is no way to extract XMP data in labels.
So the only way is to use the categories stored in catalog (sync with .xmp), you can use a custom label and enter {Categories}
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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by fd2 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:07 pm

Oh, i understood nothing. Maybe because my English is weak...
Can you explain it as much detail as possible? with step-by-step instructions?
Thank you

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Re: Categories are not displayed

Post by xnview » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:15 am

you have the setting to import/export categories into .xmp sidecar

So when you add/remove a category inside XnView, the .xmp sidecar is changed, and the database used by catalog too. the database try to be synchronized with files.

{IPTC:Categories} use another metadata (IPTC)

So if you want to display the categories (category pane), you can add a custom label like that
Capture-1.png
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