2 Feature Requests for File Renaming

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TheEvilHammer
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2 Feature Requests for File Renaming

Post by TheEvilHammer »

I've noticed that file renaming in browser mode is not as clean as it could be:
  • When you are renaming a file, the textbox with the new name sits on top of a greyed-out textbox with the old name. This is pretty weird-looking and I don't think this is the intended behavior. It seems that the greyed textbox with the old name should disappear while the file is being renamed.
  • When a file is being renamed, it would be much more helpful if the default selected text is the filename without the extension. Since users won't (shouldn't) be renaming the extension of the file, the default text selection should not include the file extension. As it is right now, renaming a group of files takes longer than it should because the extension has to be typed in every time. Removing the extension from the default selected text would definitely streamline the renaming process.
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Re: 2 Feature Requests for File Renaming

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TheEvilHammer wrote:I've noticed that file renaming in browser mode is not as clean as it could be:
  • When you are renaming a file, the textbox with the new name sits on top of a greyed-out textbox with the old name. This is pretty weird-looking and I don't think this is the intended behavior. It seems that the greyed textbox with the old name should disappear while the file is being renamed.
  • When a file is being renamed, it would be much more helpful if the default selected text is the filename without the extension. Since users won't (shouldn't) be renaming the extension of the file, the default text selection should not include the file extension. As it is right now, renaming a group of files takes longer than it should because the extension has to be typed in every time. Removing the extension from the default selected text would definitely streamline the renaming process.
What do other people think?
Strange, I don't have these 'problems'. If you change it, next time it's OK, or not?
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Post by TheEvilHammer »

The actual file renaming works fine - my two points were actually related to the graphical interface.

This partial screenshot shows the (possible) bug I reported in my first bullet:

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These partial screenshots show the feature request I made in my second bullet:

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Post by xnview »

TheEvilHammer wrote:The actual file renaming works fine - my two points were actually related to the graphical interface.

This partial screenshot shows the (possible) bug I reported in my first bullet:



These partial screenshots show the feature request I made in my second bullet:

What do other people think?
Yes right better, but i have a problem to do that...
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Post by Dreamer »

xnview wrote:
TheEvilHammer wrote:The actual file renaming works fine - my two points were actually related to the graphical interface.

This partial screenshot shows the (possible) bug I reported in my first bullet:



These partial screenshots show the feature request I made in my second bullet:

What do other people think?
Yes right better, but i have a problem to do that...
Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
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Post by TheEvilHammer »

Dreamer wrote:Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
What do you mean by "Viewer/FS"?
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Post by xnview »

Dreamer wrote:
xnview wrote:
TheEvilHammer wrote:The actual file renaming works fine - my two points were actually related to the graphical interface.

This partial screenshot shows the (possible) bug I reported in my first bullet:



These partial screenshots show the feature request I made in my second bullet:

What do other people think?
Yes right better, but i have a problem to do that...
Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
Really? no more a edit box in listview??
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Post by Dreamer »

TheEvilHammer wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
What do you mean by "Viewer/FS"?
View mode / Fullscreen mode, press F2 in Fullscreen to check.
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
Really? no more a edit box in listview??
It would be clearer I think.
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Post by TheEvilHammer »

Dreamer wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
Really? no more a edit box in listview??
It would be clearer I think.
I actually like having the little editbox - it's much more streamlined and much less intrusive than a dialog box. I would rather see the same editbox with the updated default text selection...
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Post by FlorianH »

Dreamer wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Why not add the same dialog as in Viewer/FS? There are more bugs with the current behavior. What other users think about it?
Really? no more a edit box in listview??
It would be clearer I think.
I would prefer to keep the editbox to edit the name in place (if possible selection without file-extension), as TheEvilHammer said.
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Post by eweryboooody »

Hey guys! Heltmut brought me here ;]
You can read my recent blahblah here.

To make it short: I'm one of those: "only hidden extensions are good extension"-guys.

But Helmut? This threat is older than the other one! :? whatever..

To follow your suggestions here: I'd also think the whole renaming-window from Viewer/FS is a little too much for the Browser. Maybe one could make it just the way it is but with an extra box for the extension. So you cannot overwrite it accidentially.

Finally I'd think the best solution whould be to just use the windows settings: If explorer saiys no extensions : show no extensions in xnView as well... But OK: Here are ones that don't think so. Because everyone has to know whats ""behind""!! ;]

Now If you want the extesions shown by default thats fine with me. But there should be an option to disable them. Maybe also display a Huge warning!! I don't care :] I just want to get rid of them.

Btw: I read the whole thread: I cannot see what the "bug" was TheEvilHammer was talking about. But I have another problem what is best described by some screenies ;]:

If a namefield of an item you want to rename in thumbnailview is on the very lower border of the pane the renaming shows nothing even if you type in it.
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If you just scroll down 1 pixel its all cool again:
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Can you confirm this?
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Post by eweryboooody »

hey? No one reading this?

OK I gonna seperate the last problem to a single bug.... cya
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Post by helmut »

eweryboooody wrote:hey? No one reading this?
I think that renaming using a dialog box for both browser and image view is good. It makes things consistent and it's much easier to keep the file extension untouched.
eweryboooody wrote: OK I gonna seperate the last problem to a single bug.... cya
Good idea, will make replying easier.