b1: [Req] Menu "Create" in View mode

[helmut]

In Browser mode, we have the new main menu "Create" (see also topic "New main menu "Create"").

What we have now is that menus of Browser mode and View mode differ, which I find a bit annoying. I suggest to introduce the main menu "Create" in View mode, too and move the appropriate menu items from "Tools" menu to "Create" menu.

I don't want to press this into 1.82 at any rate, but perhaps we can make a quick decision here and put it in.

XnView 1.82 <x>

[Dreamer]

I agree.

[Xyzzy]

Agreed.

X.

[xnview]

But if i add 'Create', i think that there now too much menu, no??

[helmut]

But if i add 'Create', i think that there now too much menu, no??

I'm not a heavy "View mode" user, but a clear structure with many menus is still o.k. and easy too handle, I think.

[raga]

I suggest to introduce the main menu "Create" in View mode, too.

Very good suggestion.

Perhaps even clearer and easier: Show exactly the same menu structure in both modes and just disable the entries that are not available in the respective mode.

But if i add 'Create', i think that there now too much menu, no??

I don't think this is a problem.

If the window is rather large, there is enough space for menu entries. If the window is very small, some of the menu entries will be wrapped in a second line.

[xnview]

But if i add 'Create', i think that there now too much menu, no??

I'm not a heavy "View mode" user, but a clear structure with many menus is still o.k. and easy too handle, I think.

But what we must have, currently i can only put Slideshow & panorama

[helmut]

But if i add 'Create', i think that there now too much menu, no??

I'm not a heavy "View mode" user, but a clear structure with many menus is still o.k. and easy too handle, I think.

But what we must have, currently i can only put Slideshow & panorama

In view mode the menu items
- Slide show
- Panorama (Stripe of images)
- Multi-page image
should move from "Tools" to "Create".

And there's still "Tools > Capture screen" which could be come "Create > Screen capture" (in both Browser mode and Image view mode).

It's not many menu items, but at least 3 or 4. And it will be consistent, then.

[Dreamer]

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It's not many menu items, but at least 3 or 4. And it will be consistent, then.

Maybe all options from browser should be added also to viewer, since we can add images there and when user check this menu in viewer, he might miss some options that are only in browser.

Maybe also "Create Screensaver" (and "Create EXE") should be added there, since this feature is a bit hidden, it's there only as sub-option and only as "Create EXE/SCR" - SCR might be strange for normal users.

[xnview]

- Multi-page image
should move from "Tools" to "Create"..

But in multipage, you have edit/Create/Extract... Is it a problem?

[helmut]

- Multi-page image
should move from "Tools" to "Create"..

But in multipage, you have edit/Create/Extract... Is it a problem?

Oh, right, in view mode the menu item "Edit > Multi page image" contains several sub menu items. Not sure whether splitting the editing and the creation of multipage images makes sense.

Currently I tend to split the menu items, i.e., menu items for editing would remain in "Edit > Multipage image", only menu item "Edit > Multipage image > Create..." would go to "Create" main menu.

[xnview]

- Multi-page image
should move from "Tools" to "Create"..

But in multipage, you have edit/Create/Extract... Is it a problem?

Oh, right, in view mode the menu item "Edit > Multi page image" contains several sub menu items. Not sure whether splitting the editing and the creation of multipage images makes sense.

Currently I tend to split the menu items, i.e., menu items for editing would remain in "Edit > Multipage image", only menu item "Edit > Multipage image > Create..." would go to "Create" main menu.

I don't think that it's a good idea...

[Dreamer]

But in multipage, you have edit/Create/Extract... Is it a problem?

Oh, right, in view mode the menu item "Edit > Multi page image" contains several sub menu items. Not sure whether splitting the editing and the creation of multipage images makes sense.

Currently I tend to split the menu items, i.e., menu items for editing would remain in "Edit > Multipage image", only menu item "Edit > Multipage image > Create..." would go to "Create" main menu.

I don't think that it's a good idea...

I disagree, because some users will never find this feature, in Create menu it would be more "visible" (and also correct, but it's less important now).

[Xyzzy]

OK, currently we have a pretty mess here.
What about some RULES in the first place?

Create menu OK, but what should it contain (as opposed to Tools)? I think actions related to creating NEW, IMAGE RELATED CREATION.
So, for example hypothetical "duplicate image" would be a tool, as it creates nothing new, just duplicate of existing image. But, on the other hand, hypothetical "create image" would be a Create function, as it creates something that has not existed before. OK, now down to business.

Move Create>File listing to Tools, as it has nothing to do with images. Just a handy tool.
Add in View menu with items the same as in Browser>Create.

BTW, something should be done with selecting files for Web Page, as it differs from the methods used by other items in Create.

X.

[helmut]

OK, currently we have a pretty mess here.
What about some RULES in the first place?

There are rules:
Whenever something new is created, the menu item goes to "Create". All other functions are listed in "Tools" menu.