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XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Hi )
I stopped understanding what for need XnView MP and XnConvert ) now I will explain what I mean )
XnConvert as software without languarge packs have size 134 megabytes
XnViever MP as software without languarge packs have size 139 megabytes
Question , what for need both software if XnConvert this is partial XnView MP ? I think , what can create key for run XnView MP as only converter mode ) for example :
1) if I run XnViewMP.exe - so run standard mode , and if I press clrl+u so run batch mode for convertation )
2) if I run XnViewMP.exe /converteronly - so run XnView without standard shell , and run simply convertion tool )
This possible ?
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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no,
XnView MP => 92Mb
XnConvert => 249Mb
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Why ? As far as I know , general files in both folders coincide , differ only executable file , XnView MP = 13 MB , and XnConvert 7 MB ) how did you get this difference ?
But if so , sum both program with general files and executable file bigger more than sum of both general files and difer executable files )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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XnView MP = Batch convert [=XnConvert] + Many other functions [viewer and file browser] so much larger... :D

Pierre's MB values above transposed... :wink:
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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No ) you can see videos where clear see what differ in only executable file ) because if add both file in pack , will be overal size smaller )
What for this need ? This need because if I seeing images and I want convert images , I press ctrl + u and start convert , but now I can not seeing images while convertation ) if add both executable files , I will can and seeing and convertion images )

You can very increase convenience in use XnView MP ) for this need divide XnViewMP.exe on two files , XnViewMP.exe for view imagees and XnConvert.exe for convertation and transcoding images ) convenience will be because user will can seeing and convert images paralel ) also , you can in XnViewMP.exe create what if press ctrl+u or select files and press ctrl+u , run separate process for converation or transcoding images )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Xn User wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:38 am Why ? As far as I know , general files in both folders coincide , differ only executable file , XnView MP = 13 MB , and XnConvert 7 MB ) how did you get this difference ?
XnView MP = XnConvert + many other features
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Yes ) I knowning ) I say about what if I do convert in XnView MP , so in this time I can not seeing images , because run process convertation or transcoding , if divide xnviewmp on two executable files and both include in XnViewMP pack , so can seeing images and transcoding images regardless ) and both process will not interfere with each other and call convertion or transcoding can do on press ctrl+u in XnViewMP as now )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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This is diffirence one and two process ) this will be if you divide function one XnViewMP.exe to two executable file in your software )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Theme requires clarification :
I use XnViewer MP with this option , and in this mode , being running like this, XnVirw MP has strong discomfort during transcoding . That's why I see solution this problem with if use separate run for transcoding if select option "Allow only one application interface" or always run transcoding forced as separate application , or if this not possible , so need divide XnView MP on XnVirewer MP for vierwer and XnConvert for transcoding )
Because not convenient when multi-window )
If I be will open 10 files in 10 folders , I recive 10 copies application and this me not convenient ) , but also not convenient as now )
I think , what transcoding or convertation , always must will launched as another thread )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Have you considered installing both XnView MP and XnConvert?
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Yes , but I can’t call the reason publicly ) about cause known only autor of XnSoftware )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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Maybe I not right , but I think , what you need mix all your programs in one pack ) absolute absent of meaning in make two programs , I offer make only XnViewMP , but add keys for run as , I mean what for example run xnviewmp.exe will runing as Viewer , but if run xnviewmp.exe / convert , so run as XnConvert without viewer interface , but with XnConvert interface.
This will very much unload you , because you will need make exe file as xnconvert .exe , which will be run xnviewmp.exe with key /convert , thus if you fix XnView MP , you simultaneously fix XnConvert
Also can make XnResize ) XnViewMP.exe /resizer and will be run XnResizer
I want say , what do as in InnoSetup , for example :
1) run yourprogram.exe - will run standard setup
2) run yourprogram.exe / silent - will run silent install
3) run yourprogram.exe / verysilent - will run very silent setup without installer interface )

Similarly , you can split all your producs easy make files ,for example on VBS :

xnconvert.exe with contents
On Error Resume Next
Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
CurrentDir = Left(WScript.ScriptFullName, InStrRev(WScript.ScriptFullName, "\"))
Set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCurFolder = objWshShell.CurrentDirectory
objWshShell.CurrentDirectory = (CurrentDir)
WshShell.Run "xnviewmp.exe /convert"

xnresizer.exe with contents
On Error Resume Next
Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
CurrentDir = Left(WScript.ScriptFullName, InStrRev(WScript.ScriptFullName, "\"))
Set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCurFolder = objWshShell.CurrentDirectory
objWshShell.CurrentDirectory = (CurrentDir)
WshShell.Run "xnviewmp.exe /resizer"

After this , if you will be fix xnviewmp.exe , you will be fix three application or two if add only xnconvert mode by key )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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I'm sayd about :

If I press F1 and next press tab Command line

Usage: xnviewmp [options]
Options
<folder>
: Open the folder in browser mode
<image_filename>
: Open image in edit mode
-browse <image_filename>
: Open image in browser mode with selected filename
-ini <xnview.ini>
: Use this file to load settings
<slideshow.sld>
: Load slideshow
-slide <slideshow.sld>
: Load slideshow
-filelist <file_list.txt>
: Load files list in browser mode
-capture=desktop,<output_filename>
: Capture desktop, and save it
-clipaste
: Import clipboard

you can add -convert for open XnViewMP in XnConvert mode )
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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A lot of users prefer XnConvert, Batch convert in XnView MP has specific functions because you have the browser...
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Re: XnViewer MP and XnConvert

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xnview wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:51 am A lot of users prefer XnConvert, Batch convert in XnView MP has specific functions because you have the browser...
Yes ) but if I want run XnViewMP as separate copy with XnConvert mode , why I can not run this with key ?
Now me need run as XnView and if I use with settings General -> Startup -> Start without file -> Open Browser -> Specified and set for example D:\Pictures and if in D:\Pictures very very more images , I will need wait browser read all files and thumbmails , and if in folder 100K files and more , this can take it long time ) that's why I think what if run with key for convert and use one application , will be better )

I mean what as you make key for use ini file ) or for paste from clipboard ) , this not hard , but comfortably for use one application

Moreover I offer do what if XnView so
Settings -> General -> Allow only one application interface
Need ignore this options if run XnViewMP.exe -convert )

That is I want sayd , what to give feature as in XnView MP with browser and viewer m and as in XnViewMP without browser and viewer if use key )
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