DX: 'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)

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DX: 'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)

Post by Dreamer » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:39 am

'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)...

Edit: Main button could perform last used action.
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And you fire ?????

Post by Clo » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:00 am

:) Hello !

- Indeed, as much more buttons as you want, I agree and support…

- But please, tell me which actual ones you would fire ?
- With the actual system using a “frozen” single bitmap, there are only two solutions :

1. Fire existing buttons to recover their locations on the bitmap - and update all the skins-, {*}

2. Increase the bitmap at size (more icons) - and remake all the skins:(

• I've proposed other ways for a while, including the addition of extra-tool-bar(s) as plugins, quite unsuccessfully till today…

- It should be coherent to support such requests and ideas while it's obvious that much more buttons are needed, and cannot be added in the practice…
{*} In 1.82.2, not even all skins have been updated about the new browser small bar… Mine are.

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Re: And you fire ?????

Post by Dreamer » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:18 am

Maybe we could use "deluxe system" (of buttons) - Pierre?

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Post by ZoNi » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:39 pm

I need wallpaper button, with dropdown (set center, fit, best fit, etc...)

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Post by SeaMaiden » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:55 pm

As long as Toolbar 4 (Dominique Clément) is updated or remade, it does not matter to me. That's the only one I use.
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not the skin---

Post by Clo » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:53 am

—> SeaMaiden

:D Hello T. !

• That is lame here is not the skin-thing, but the basic original tool-bar system itself, which is indeed very limited and impractical when one wishes to add buttons…

- Even remaking a 50-icon skin should not solve the issue definitely…
… since soon or later some users will request more than 50 icons for more than 50 internal commands… :wink:

- It's quite possible to have better; for instance, in Total Commander you can set as so numerous icons as you wish, as several bars -but only one can be displayed at the same time, and each one can call any other-; any icon of any size can be used for any button, as *.ICO, from an ICL, DLL, EXE etc… I can't imagine that programme having a "frozen" tool bar limited to 33 buttons - like XnView currently-, or even a few more, it has legion of internal commands (documented), and XnView has a lot too (not documented yet?)…

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Re: DX: 'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)

Post by Xyzzy » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:38 am

Dreamer wrote:'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)...
Because main menu cannot be disabled, you'd always get the menu twice, once in main menu and once on a button- working exactly the same way. Seems useless redundancy.

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Re: DX: 'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)

Post by Dreamer » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:51 pm

Xyzzy wrote:
Dreamer wrote:'Create' toolbar button (with sub-items)...
Because main menu cannot be disabled, you'd always get the menu twice, once in main menu and once on a button- working exactly the same way. Seems useless redundancy.

X.
There could be an option to disable menu in the future and it could be more useful with another idea...

Main button could perform last used action.

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Post by JohnFredC » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:22 pm

2Clo

Greetings!

Have you tried the SpeedCommander 11 toolbar system? It works almost exactly like Microsoft Office, even provides an icon editor "inline"...

The DOpus toolbar system works well, too.

I really like the TC ability to drag files and folders to the toolbar and have them automatically become drop points.

A combination of the TC approach with the SC 11 approach would be fantastic in XNView.
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A way to find…

Post by Clo » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:19 pm

—> JohnFredC

:) Hello John !
Have you tried the SpeedCommander 11 toolbar system? It works almost exactly like Microsoft Office, even provides an icon editor "inline"...
- I may admit I didn't, first 'cause SC is not really localizable yet, so I avoid it like the plague, and 2nd. 'cause I'm neither an intensive user of M$ Office, nor a fanatic of its icons system…
I really like the TC ability to drag files and folders to the toolbar and have them automatically become drop points.
- I do too ! IMHO, it's the best tool-bar system - at least among those I know -, even if it has still some lacunæ like a single icon-size for bar #1 and all sub-bars, and other minor thingumabobs in the same painting…
• For instance : unable to extract ¦ use icons from a multi-page TIFF containing only icons, much more simpler to create - with XnView - than ICLs…
A combination of the TC approach with the SC 11 approach would be fantastic in XNView.
Image Maybe… Could you show us a more precise approach ? Fake dialogues welcome !

:mrgreen: Kind regards,
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Post by ouistiti » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:37 pm

I agree totally, and I would be glad too to know more about your ideas for tool-bars in XnView !

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Post by JohnFredC » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:59 pm

2Clo

Just download SpeedCommander and check it out! There is a 30 day evaluation period.
John

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