sorting acording EXIF problem ... EXIF has 3 dates ... and I dont know why but according to picture !!! the Exif creation date was owerwritten and only the "last edit" date stayed on 22.6. !!!
its total shit that
creation 10.7. wrong !!!!!!
last edit 22.6. correct
last access 10.7. correct
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Kubooo
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ITS TOTAL SHIT MAN !!!!!!
in this stage how this can still be unsolved ?????
custom sort !!! amazing to reorder albums than rename !!! but !!! try to reorder album with 300photos ????
WHY is only possible to drag 1pic ??? when I select 10 and try to reorder move them to new place ITS NOT WORKING !!!!!! = its totaly useless :/
in this stage how this can still be unsolved ?????
custom sort !!! amazing to reorder albums than rename !!! but !!! try to reorder album with 300photos ????
WHY is only possible to drag 1pic ??? when I select 10 and try to reorder move them to new place ITS NOT WORKING !!!!!! = its totaly useless :/
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xnview
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sorry but what's the problem?? Could you post screenshot in english, please
Pierre.
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Kubooo
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xnview wrote:sorry but what's the problem?? Could you post screenshot in english, please
WARNING ???? fuck you !!! I try to help you and you issue a WARNING ????
the PROBLEM IS ... that your program has time BUG !!! look again at the picture right
how can be image EXIF
created 10 july
last edited 6 jun ?????? !!! THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CREATION DATE AND ACORDING TO THIS DATE IT SHOULD BE ORGANIZED when "organize according exuf date" is issued
last visited 10 july
my suggestion the items are swaped and then you issu organize according to EXIF date my pictures are ORGANIZED WRONG !!!!!!!!
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Kubooo
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dear stupid admin sorry i mean INTELIGENT ... you issue warning for what ?
go to program and try to reorganize 800 pictures ... I was unable to move do diferent place MORE THAN 1 picture at a time !!!! warning yourself next time ...
I first started to use this prog ears ago and now I see why I have left ... and after years is STILL NOT SOLVED
go to program and try to reorganize 800 pictures ... I was unable to move do diferent place MORE THAN 1 picture at a time !!!! warning yourself next time ...
I first started to use this prog ears ago and now I see why I have left ... and after years is STILL NOT SOLVED
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m.Th.
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My dear friend,
First of all, I humbly think that a calm approach would help you a lot better to solve your issues.
Anger and hate against someone else, being an existential distortion, darkens and narrows a lot the mind's eye, pushing the things into a dead end, compelled by self presentiments thieving in your cliches, sitting in a corner of your mind and giving birth to thoughts to power more thoughts, to power thoughts, to power thoughts, thoughts, thoughts...
Leave it pass. It is just water under the bridge. Get a life. And when the wave of anger and hate is away then your soul's eye is clear again and you can more easily deal with your problem, real or not.
IMHO Pierre (or anyone for that matter) really doesn't deserve the offensive language which you used. Especially because the problem isn't with him. Is with you.
The problem with you isn't only spiritual is technical also.
But let's take them one by one:
1. Created Date can be AFTER Modified Date
It seems that this thing which happens quite often is unknown to you.
This can happen in many ways, especially when one moves (downloads) photos from memory card to his computer. Because Move implies:
a.) Creation of new file now - eg. in 12/7/2014
b.) "Filling" the new file with the content of the source file which was last modified in eg. 1/7/2014.
c.) Deleting the source file
...that's why the creation date (set at step a.) ) is newer than the modification date which comes from source file (see the step b.) )
Also at the step b.) we must note that the Operating System's Copy routine is 'blind' which means that all the data is binary transferred, including the EXIF date which is a bit of information stored inside of the file. Please note that some file formats, besides of actual image data, store inside of file many metadata informations according of different standards (EXIF, IPTC, XMP etc.). Just one of these is the EXIF's 'Date Taken'. See for yourself here a screenshot taken from Windows Explorer (in order to not blame once again XnView MP):
You can see above that for some files all three dates are different and for many of them (see from the middle to bottom) the modified date is OLDER than creation date. In fact for 95% of our archive (we have @ 700.000 photos here - yep, almost one million - so much, much, much more than you) exhibit this normal phenomenon: The creation date is NEWER than modification date and EXIF date due of downloading process from card. This is an Operating System (Windows) standard, nothing to do with XnView MP.
So I'm sorry to say but it seems that the problem is with you, not with XnView MP or anything else. We simply cannot revert the history of operating systems (20-30-40 years back?) in order to change the way in which the Creation and Modified dates are applied.
2. EXIF Date can be wrong. And this can be expected.
As an aside note, the EXIF Date Taken parameter is written by the imaging device (usually camera) in the image file at the moment in which the image is taken, hence it depends of the device's internal clock which can be off. This is a very common problem on low/middle range cameras which doesn't have separate battery for the camera's real-time clock.. By the way, do you check your camera's clock periodically?
Also, on some devices (I know some concrete dSLR models) there are rare situations in which, due of some firmware glitches, the EXIF Date Taken together with the Modified Date is way wrong. Be sure you have the last firmware upgrade, if your camera supports upgrading of your firmware (usually only in semi-pro, pro and flagship models).
3. A program does what you say not what you want
If you want to sort images by EXIF date or creation date, fine. But be sure that this is what you want. XnView MP's sorting engine works ok. Yes, I just checked it against other programs - for example you can check for yourself against Windows Explorer to see. Sort the same files ON THE SAME FIELD in Windows Explorer and XnView MP. Does it give different results? I don't think so.
Just that I humbly think that you must calm down and understand the meaning of each date value and what are the consequences of your sorting(s).
Personally we use 'Modified Date' for sorting, but it is up to you to choose what you want. Just to be sure that you're calm enough in order to know what you're doing.
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(Btw) Why do you want to do such a huge reorderings in your albums in order to request to move more all the selected pictures in a new place?
But be calm and don't use offensive speak (also, no need for so many !!! - we can read without them) because otherwise perhaps you'll be banned. And we don't want that.
First of all, I humbly think that a calm approach would help you a lot better to solve your issues.
Anger and hate against someone else, being an existential distortion, darkens and narrows a lot the mind's eye, pushing the things into a dead end, compelled by self presentiments thieving in your cliches, sitting in a corner of your mind and giving birth to thoughts to power more thoughts, to power thoughts, to power thoughts, thoughts, thoughts...
Leave it pass. It is just water under the bridge. Get a life. And when the wave of anger and hate is away then your soul's eye is clear again and you can more easily deal with your problem, real or not.
IMHO Pierre (or anyone for that matter) really doesn't deserve the offensive language which you used. Especially because the problem isn't with him. Is with you.
The problem with you isn't only spiritual is technical also.
But let's take them one by one:
1. Created Date can be AFTER Modified Date
It seems that this thing which happens quite often is unknown to you.
This can happen in many ways, especially when one moves (downloads) photos from memory card to his computer. Because Move implies:
a.) Creation of new file now - eg. in 12/7/2014
b.) "Filling" the new file with the content of the source file which was last modified in eg. 1/7/2014.
c.) Deleting the source file
...that's why the creation date (set at step a.) ) is newer than the modification date which comes from source file (see the step b.) )
Also at the step b.) we must note that the Operating System's Copy routine is 'blind' which means that all the data is binary transferred, including the EXIF date which is a bit of information stored inside of the file. Please note that some file formats, besides of actual image data, store inside of file many metadata informations according of different standards (EXIF, IPTC, XMP etc.). Just one of these is the EXIF's 'Date Taken'. See for yourself here a screenshot taken from Windows Explorer (in order to not blame once again XnView MP):
You can see above that for some files all three dates are different and for many of them (see from the middle to bottom) the modified date is OLDER than creation date. In fact for 95% of our archive (we have @ 700.000 photos here - yep, almost one million - so much, much, much more than you) exhibit this normal phenomenon: The creation date is NEWER than modification date and EXIF date due of downloading process from card. This is an Operating System (Windows) standard, nothing to do with XnView MP.
So I'm sorry to say but it seems that the problem is with you, not with XnView MP or anything else. We simply cannot revert the history of operating systems (20-30-40 years back?) in order to change the way in which the Creation and Modified dates are applied.
2. EXIF Date can be wrong. And this can be expected.
As an aside note, the EXIF Date Taken parameter is written by the imaging device (usually camera) in the image file at the moment in which the image is taken, hence it depends of the device's internal clock which can be off. This is a very common problem on low/middle range cameras which doesn't have separate battery for the camera's real-time clock.. By the way, do you check your camera's clock periodically?
Also, on some devices (I know some concrete dSLR models) there are rare situations in which, due of some firmware glitches, the EXIF Date Taken together with the Modified Date is way wrong. Be sure you have the last firmware upgrade, if your camera supports upgrading of your firmware (usually only in semi-pro, pro and flagship models).
3. A program does what you say not what you want
If you want to sort images by EXIF date or creation date, fine. But be sure that this is what you want. XnView MP's sorting engine works ok. Yes, I just checked it against other programs - for example you can check for yourself against Windows Explorer to see. Sort the same files ON THE SAME FIELD in Windows Explorer and XnView MP. Does it give different results? I don't think so.
Just that I humbly think that you must calm down and understand the meaning of each date value and what are the consequences of your sorting(s).
Personally we use 'Modified Date' for sorting, but it is up to you to choose what you want. Just to be sure that you're calm enough in order to know what you're doing.
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(Btw) Why do you want to do such a huge reorderings in your albums in order to request to move more all the selected pictures in a new place?
But be calm and don't use offensive speak (also, no need for so many !!! - we can read without them) because otherwise perhaps you'll be banned. And we don't want that.
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XnTriq
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Re: Sorting ... XnviewMP
I'm the “stupid admin sorry i mean INTELIGENT”. Pierre's innocent!m.Th. wrote:IMHO Pierre (or anyone for that matter) really doesn't deserve the offensive language which you used.
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